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To: RnMomof7
You make the assumption it was a common belief..but it was not "mandatory " for a Catholic to believe it untill the 1200's..It was a matter of personal faith.

Once again, you fail to distinguish between "transubstantiation" as an explanation of the belief, and the belief itself.

Catholic Christians always have believed in the Real Presence. The philosophical constructs used in the definition of transubstantiation are now the accepted way of describing in more detail the miracle.

Or are you one of those who think that nobody believed things fell to the ground before Newton defined gravity?

The Epistles are the doctrinal teachings of the new church written by those that were there..not one reference to the bread being the actual body of Christ..a rememberance to be treated solomely like the passover..a holy time of Gods presence..but no mention that even the disciples that were there understood it to be the actual body..

You know this isn't true. Paul writes of those who do not "discern the body" eating their own damnation. There are other examples, which you have been shown before. Really.

SD

101 posted on 10/30/2002 7:06:33 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
You know this isn't true. Paul writes of those who do not "discern the body" eating their own damnation.

Paul was writing to the Corinthians, who were having a riotous old time during their LOVE FEAST, which they would attempt to follow with a Lord's Supper Service.

The behaviour of the Corinthians during the LOVE FEAST was quite unchristian. It was like a church pitch-in, but the well-off wouldn't share what they had with the poor. Some folk were gorging themselves on food, while others barely got anything. Some drank so much that they were drunk by the time the Lord's Supper came around.

By the time the Lord's Supper was to be served, ... what you had was a bunch of folk with decidely non-christian attitudes. The rich were gluttonous, drunk, greedy, and lording it over their poorer brethren, while the poor were feeling abused, unloved, and probably a little envious of their more well-off brothers and sisters. Some were so stuffed (or drunk), they would fall asleep during the Lord's Supper service.

It was to this misbehaviour that the apostle Paul addressed his comments. He encouraged the Corinthians to be more christian during the LOVE FEAST ... to share with one another ... to wait on one another ... to save for home the satisfaction of their appetites.

As to the Lord's Supper, he encouraged a solemn and reverent approach. He further encouraged them to place, formost in their minds and hearts, the remembrance of JESUS' sacrifice for them, ... the breaking of His body ... the shedding of His blood.

Finally, he warned them that, to continue to desecrate the Lord's Supper service, as they were doing, giving no thought as to the Lord's body and blood, which had been sacrificed for them, would yield chastening from the Lord, which, some of them, even now, were experiencing.

There are other examples, which you have been shown before. Really.

Where are these others ?


129 posted on 10/30/2002 10:27:15 AM PST by Quester
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To: SoothingDave
You need to read that in context and see what the apostle was addressing ,Dave

Just as the Jews treat the Passover rememberance with great respect as a "Holy time "the early church needed instructions that the Lords Supper was likewise a Holy Time..not lunch at Mc Donalds

152 posted on 10/30/2002 2:22:22 PM PST by RnMomof7
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