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Principles of Literal Bible Interpretation
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| Revised, Aug 2001
| Cooper P. Abrams, III
Posted on 10/29/2002 5:18:29 AM PST by xzins
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
The problem with that Mack is the pretrib rapture adds an extra "2nd" coming"
To: ksen; RnMomof7; the_doc
Verses 42-43 describe the end of the Sons kingdom with the tares thrown into a furnace of fire and the sheep entering the Fathers kingdom.
So much for this verse:
- Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end, upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, to order it and establish it with judgment and justice from that time forward, even forever.
But, really, I do have just one simple question: Do you deny that today we are in the kingdom of God?
From the Amillenialist perspective, what are these two different kingdoms?
Same kingdom; different age.
To: RnMomof7
Wow that is the first time I heard that K...
It is rather shocking to be confronted with what Premillennialism is all about, isn't it?
To: theAmbassador
Yep
To: RnMomof7
The problem with that Mack is the pretrib rapture adds an extra "2nd" coming"In other words, you ain't gonna read it.
It don't add a second coming if Christ never puts His foot down on the earth, can't you see that?
Take the time to read the link, don't be so damn hardheaded. :)
BigMack
To: jude24; RnMomof7
I'm familiar with your assertion regarding the "that he should deceive the nations no more." But the issue I see is that according to 2 Cor. 4:4, that is precisely what Satan is doing now. Thats probably my biggest objection of them all.
If you will re-read what I said in my series of e-mails, you will discover that I affirmed the idea found in 2 Corinthians 4:4.
So, wherein consists your confusion?
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posted on
11/01/2002 12:43:15 PM PST
by
the_doc
To: ksen; Jean Chauvin; RnMomof7; the_doc
Mom, has any animal sacrifice EVER cleansed a single sin? Of course not. So if the OT animal sacrifices never cleansed a sin, what makes us think that future, Millenial animal sacrifices would cleanse sin?
If all you Premillennialists think that animal sacrifice is such a higher form of spiritual worship, then why can't I find any of you taking the bull to the local temple? Surely you are not afraid of PETA. You tell me when and where and I'll keep the riff-raff away.
To: theAmbassador; xzins; Corin Stormhands
If you people will be patient with me, I will eventually answer some of these questions. But, really, some of you simply need to pick up your Bibles and read them and quit being such brats. This isn't rocket science. I agree!
There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor any old man tht hath not filled his days; for the child shall die being an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed (Isa.65:20)
Now, what could be more clear then that, that people are dying and sinning either in the eternal state or the Millennial Kingdom.
This isn't rocket science. Just clear scripture.
To: theAmbassador; ksen; RnMomof7
ksen: Mom, has any animal sacrifice EVER cleansed a single sin? Of course not. So if the OT animal sacrifices never cleansed a sin, what makes us think that future, Millenial animal sacrifices would cleanse sin? theAmbassador: If all you Premillennialists think that animal sacrifice is such a higher form of spiritual worship, then why can't I find any of you taking the bull to the local temple? Surely you are not afraid of PETA. You tell me when and where and I'll keep the riff-raff away.
Mom if this guy is your new guide to what the Bible says you might want to rethink who you hang with, look at what ksen wrote, and his reply, do you see what I'm talking about? ksen NEVER said anything of the sort.
BigMack
To: ksen
I never said that saints die in the Millenial Kingdom.
They still have their bodies of death.
To: ksen
I believed that the blood covered the sin..so technically you are correct that they did not "remove sin" But they did cover it
Because Christ was the once for all atonment the sins are forgiven ...but I do not believe the animal sacrifices were without spiritual effect..only symbolic..
None of that adresses why new sacrifice for sin is needed in the temple
To: RnMomof7
You should know that the only reason I am slogging through all these posts is because you said that your understanding of scriptural truth has more to do with what the Premills are saying than what we Amills are saying. I must say that I do understand the effect that seeing the darkness of wrong doctrine has, but you did make me pout that we Amills didn't convince you with our wonderfully logical arguments.
Perhaps there is another who sees what kind of doctrine Premillennialism really is.
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
ksen NEVER said anything of the sort.Thanks for watching my back bud. ;^)
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posted on
11/01/2002 1:03:45 PM PST
by
ksen
To: theAmbassador
Perhaps there is another who sees what kind of doctrine Premillennialism really is.The correct one.
;^)
394
posted on
11/01/2002 1:05:35 PM PST
by
ksen
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; ksen; RnMomof7
The point is that you dispensationalists tell me how wonderful the worship will be during this millennium. I'm just wondering if animal sacrifices are such a wonderful spiritual memorial why you aren't doing them today.
To: theAmbassador
You are correct..thanks
To: theAmbassador
It's usually not a lack of "wonderfully logical arguments" so much as it is the manner in which they're presented that is the roadblock in the path of amillennialists. The change in my views resulted not from concise, logical, scriptural arguments but a desire on my part to DIS-prove the amill position and it's result of me with three bibles and two commentaries spread out in front of me in my living room.
As with most issues debated in these forums, the attitude of the person usually drowns out anything true they might put forth. Neither side usually has a monopoly on this.
To: RnMomof7
And I'm still pouting about it too. It hurt my feelings that xzins is a better ambassador for amillennialism that I am.
To: theAmbassador
Worshipping God is wonderful in whatever dispensation we happen to be in.
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posted on
11/01/2002 1:14:46 PM PST
by
ksen
To: ksen; Frumanchu; RnMomof7; the_doc; Jean Chauvin
Great! If worshipping God through animal sacrifices is such a wonderfully spiritual thing, then how come you aren't doing it today?
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