JPII: Church's Social Work Is Not Political, Gospel Message Must Accompany Aid

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[Siobhan]

Thank you, pegleg, for that information.

I am all astonishment, said again in my best Brontë voice.

[ventana]

Siobhan, how about those charities we all like? Anybody know of other, worthy charities we might inform our brothers and sisters in Christ about? V's wife. :)

[ventana]

Have you ever been divorced? V's wife.

[malakhi]

Wanted to let you know that I liked your #272.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Have you ever been divorced? V's wife.

Have you?

BigMack

[Desdemona]

I imagine others left in disgust -- not because of any prowess displayed on your part or any of your friends but because it is really boring to see the same game played out over and over.

Or that they recognize a bull-headed lost cause when they see one. We also have been turning the other cheek to bullies for so long in real life, that doing it in virtual reality is no sweat. Some of us have been called pushovers by employers. Why would we be any different here?

Declaring victory when one has clearly lost, is just so...rude.

[fortheDeclaration]

Thank you for your post. Aquinas isn't in his grave. He is in Paradise. Since you are not God, you have no way of knowing who went to hell or not. God can sovereignly do what pleases Him, and you do not know the mind of God regarding the eternal destiny of each and every soul.

First, speaking of Aquinas 'rolling in his grave' is a figure of speech.

Second, no one is in the grave after they die,(their body is, but they aren't) they are either in heaven or hell (sorry, no third options)

As far as the first quote RNMomof 7 gave, it matters not if it was printed in a thousand places because Mother never said those words. That is a fact. It is no assertion.

OK, if you say so.

I am sure with all that she did say, she did express her own personal faith in Christ and how she shared that faith with those she was helping.

I expect you treasure your faith in Jesus as Lord in Savior. I also treasure my faith in the same Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Obviously we both believe the other to be wrong on any number of theological issues, possibly even salvation itself. My prayer and hope is that we both will see the Lord Jesus face to face and be welcomed by Him to take our place among the mutlitude of his saints. I bid you peace.

Well, that is a prayer we can both agree on.

If you are counting on anything but the blood of Christ for your salvation, you are leaning on a weak reed. (Rom.3:25)

[fortheDeclaration]

Hey, where have all the catholics gone? Oh well. Clean Up On Isle 7

LOL!

[Catholicguy]

<> This really isn't difficult. Anathema was used by the Catholic Church. I provided a link that defined anathema as used by the Catholic Church.,P> The Kotex Kid showed-up and falsely claimed the Catholic Church, in using the word anathema, intended something else.

That is the essence of disinformation. All your little photos, faux announicng ect were mere distractions. I know you feel you have somehow wona victory. Enjoy....<>

[ventana]

I asked first, but no, I haven't been. Now, will you answer my question? V's wife.

[Polycarp]

Or that they recognize a bull-headed lost cause when they see one. We also have been turning the other cheek to bullies for so long in real life, that doing it in virtual reality is no sweat.

Amen, let them go to their grave declaring victory. However, you can fool yourself your whole life long, but you cannot fool Jesus Christ. He gets the last laugh, He's the one who will decide the victor and "turn out the lights."

Let them think they've one. Heck, even tell them so if it makes them happy. I'll be glad to aid them in their self deception, if they leave our Catholic discussions alone in the future.

As far as worthy charities goes, I give locally to ones I know exactly where the money goes.

Mom's House Inc and a friend, a Monsignor, who raises money for a feeding program for the poor in Haiti.

I've been on the board of Mom's House, they provide free day care and scholarships for single mom's so the moms can complete their education and get off welfare while avoiding abortion.

I've been to Haiti and seen the programs the Monsignor set up.

I used to donate office space upstairs here in my podiatry office for the local crisis preganacy center (run by a great friend, a Baptist minister, who would be ashamed of the anti-Catholic bigots here, BTW.).

I like to give to organizations that I know personally and know exactly where the money is spent.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

What a whining crybaby you are Siobhan. BigMack

Thank you for the insult, Big Mack. God bless you.

From post #248 - Siobhan: What an imp you are, Big Mack.

Aren't you the little hypocrite.

Thank you for YOUR FIRST insult, Siobhan . God bless you.

BigMack

[Siobhan]

Thank you for your new insult, Big Mack. God bless you!

[OxfordMovement]

Aren't you the little hypocrite.

Boy, that's real big of you, BigMack.

< / sarcasm >

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Why don't you call your own on their wrongs. Why is everything always "anti-catholic," "bigots" "catholic Hater".

Siobhan called the first name. Yet you jump on Mack, completly ignoring her wrong doing. Mack calls her on it, she still does not apologize and you jump on him again.

Then we have ventana who totally lied about something I said, never pinging me to the post she was speaking about me in. When I caught it and called her on it she completly disappears from the thread, never to return, never apologizing, and no one rebukes her.

On another thread about catholic communion I told a man on there he was dead wrong for saying/having he had a consecrated host in his possession and was going to have it scientifically analyized. The catholics were very upset, but did any of them notice I had rebuked the man, NOOOOO, and I was later called a few choice names.

I admitted to being hateful on another thread, and apologized. My apology was all but spit on and I was accused of never being sincere. Yes I have apologized for things I have said several times. We all should. Does that make it insincere if we have to do it more then once. Are we only allowed to mess up once, and after that we are insincere.

What is it with you guys. Can you never see wrong doing on your part. Baiting, name calling, sarcasm. Are you all too good to ever apologize for your lapes into human error.

Everyone does it, that doesn't mean we are all bigots, hypocrite, and haters. It means we are human.

Stop with the persecution complexes. You might get farther.

Becky

[OxfordMovement]

Hi ventana. SInce this thread is contains the devil's lies about Mother Teresa, I think her Order ought to be listed because it is one of the most important groups that in Jesus' Holy Name transforms people and cultures wherever it goes. I know Mother Teresa never wanted her godly work seen as social work, and so when I mention her Order as a charity I intend to say its a work of mercy in the name of Jesus Christ serving Christ present in the distressing disguise of the poor.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Siobhan: Thank you for your new insult, Big Mack. God bless you!

OxfordMovement: Boy, that's real big of you, BigMack. < / sarcasm >

Do you guys really think people can't see thru you? LOL....Your using rule #9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

WOW! you guys are funny! :)

The catholic SPIN continues.

BigMack

[ventana]

Thanks a lot OxfordMovement, and God bless you for your good news!(Tryin to keep it positive here!). V's wife.

[OxfordMovement]

Don't rage at me, Becky. I'm not a Catholic, but the Catholics have been good friends to me as have many others on FreeRepublic. As for your husband and Siobhan, I think your husband has been a total ass on this thread and I think Siobhan has been pretty amazing in dealing with the anti-Catholic claque.

[Desdemona]

I like to give to organizations that I know personally and know exactly where the money is spent.

Very true.

I give to my alma mater HS, an all-girls Catholic, for tuition relief. My favorite teacher died this summer and a scholarship fund was set up in her name. Plus, there is an annual drive and I mark my donation for tuition.

There is a place downtown called St. Patrick's Center which feeds the homeless daily and my family cooks for this once a month. Every parish provides food one day out of the month, three to four parishes a day. They also take detox survivors and teach them restaurant skills and employ them in a grill. The food's okay and you do have to be patient with the staff, but it is successful. A lot of people have moved on.

Let's see...St. Vincent de Paul has always been a favorite, a family tradition actually, but the "poor" have been running a racket, so it's been suspended in the deanery until we can figure out how to limit this.

The utilities here also have funds to assist older adults on fixed incomes pay electric and gas and the household, collectively, gives to that every month.

Other than donating old clothes to the Council for the Blind thrift shop...I know it's not much...