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To: Pahuanui
Wow. This is a both a complete misundertanding and misrepresentation of what Kierkegaard was talking about.

Kierkegaard was the progenitor of existentialism. Elaborate for us professor...

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It most certainly does not support your 'argument'.

Fallacy of begging the question.

16 posted on 10/22/2002 9:19:27 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Kierkegaard was the progenitor of existentialism. Elaborate for us professor...

Have you even read his works?

Kierkegaard was a progenitor of extistenialism, and certainly not the progenitor.

You are using the quotations you cited completely out of context, at odds with his own philosopny, in a manner where you are simply twisting his words to back up your claim.

First you state: It never ceases to amaze me that most Christians would criticize me for being an atheist, yet they will "celebrate" a macabre pagan holiday. They inculcate their children into the practice of it and feed them the most unhealthful things you could give a child to eat.

Then you state: The fantastic is, of course, most closely related to the imagination [Phantasien], but the imagination is related in it’s turn to feeling, understanding, and will, so that a person’s feelings, understanding and will may be fantastic. Fantasy is, in general the medium of infinitization… (emphasis mine) The fantastic is generally speaking what carries a person into the infinite in such a way that it only leads him away from himself and thus prevents him from coming back to himself.

There is no argument you are making wherein Kierkegaard's citations you give has any impact.

The very same work you are quoting, he states: The self is the conscious synthesis of infinitude and finitude which relates itself to itself, whose task is to become itself, a task which can be performed only by means of a relationship to God., so when you emphasize Fantasy is, in general the medium of infinitization… you complete disregard that he maintains that the self cannot even exist without that same quality that allows for Fantasy.

All of which, while clearly indicating Kierkegaard viewed nothing in such concrete terms as you are trying to attribute to him, has nothing to do with either Halloween or allowing children to eat unhealthy food.

You should try actually reading him one day. You might like it.

It most certainly does not support your 'argument'.

Fallacy of begging the question.

Fallacy of actually understanding what Kierkegaard meant and applying it accordingly.

42 posted on 10/23/2002 9:17:38 AM PDT by Pahuanui
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