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To: Irisshlass
<> In the New Testament, every single word of which was written by individual members of the Catholic Church, the word Church is used 110 to refer to the VISIBLE BODY of Christian Catholics. In the New Testament, every single word of which was written by individual members of the Catholic Church, the word Scripture(s) is used 54 times. ONLY ONE of these 54 uses is even POSSIBLE to use to refer to the NT itself :

(2 Peter 3) "And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation: as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you:

16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 You therefore, brethren, knowing these things before, take heed, lest being led aside by the error of the unwise, you fall from your own steadfastness.

<>Isn't it INTERESTING that the SOLE SCRIPTURE reference for Scripture having to do with the New Testament POSITIVELY REFUTES SOLA SCRIPTURA.<>

20 posted on 10/20/2002 4:41:13 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy; Polycarp
"16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction. "

Here see Peter warning about ignorant people twisting scriptures to make it mean what the want it to. Here are two perfect examples of what he meant

1) Polycarp tells us that the Eunich in Acts couldn't understand Scripture without someone explaining it to him. Very true.Phillip explained the Scripture to him and then baptised him in the Spirit and left.After the baptism the Eunich wouldn't need Phillip.

2)Catholicguy use the road to Damascus conversionm to show us his ignorance of Scripture. He tells us Saul was sent to the nearest Catholic Church to learn. In Galatians Paul tells us a different story

" Gal 1:11-12 11 I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel I preached is not something that man made up. 12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ. (NIV) "

Polycarp and Catholicguy, the unlearned and unstable that Peter warned you about, just tried to "wrest" the scriptures to you. It is only by the Scriptures that you can prove their ignorance.

"17 You therefore, brethren, knowing these things before, take heed, lest being led aside by the error of the unwise, you fall from your own steadfastness. "

Peter tells us here that if we know Scripture in advance we wouldn't be led astray.Thank you for your words of wisdom, Peter. It makes the unstable and unlearned easy to spot.
Poly and CG are prime examples of what they are trying to discredit.

56 posted on 10/20/2002 2:59:00 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: Catholicguy; Polycarp
"16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction. "

Here see Peter warning about ignorant people twisting scriptures to make it mean what the want it to. Here are two perfect examples of what he meant

1) Polycarp tells us that the Eunich in Acts couldn't understand Scripture without someone explaining it to him. Very true.Phillip explained the Scripture to him and then baptised him in the Spirit and left.After the baptism the Eunich wouldn't need Phillip.

2)Catholicguy use the road to Damascus conversionm to show us his ignorance of Scripture. He tells us Saul was sent to the nearest Catholic Church to learn. In Galatians Paul tells us a different story

" Gal 1:11-12 11 I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel I preached is not something that man made up. 12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ. (NIV) "

Polycarp and Catholicguy, the unlearned and unstable that Peter warned you about, just tried to "wrest" the scriptures to you. It is only by the Scriptures that you can prove their ignorance.

"17 You therefore, brethren, knowing these things before, take heed, lest being led aside by the error of the unwise, you fall from your own steadfastness. "

Peter tells us here that if we know Scripture in advance we wouldn't be led astray.Thank you for your words of wisdom, Peter. It makes the unstable and unlearned easy to spot.
Poly and CG are prime examples of what they are trying to discredit.

Another mnemonic: Stupid = Scripture translating under Polycarp' invincible delusions

58 posted on 10/20/2002 3:20:47 PM PDT by Joshua
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