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Catholic Caucus: YOPIOS = Your Own Personal Interpretation Of Scripture
Posted on 10/19/2002 6:38:53 AM PDT by Polycarp
YOPIOS = Your Own Personal Interpretation Of Scripture.
This is my new handy nmemonic for the error of sola scriptura as it applies to you folks today. I encourage my fellow Catholics to adopt this handy abbreviation, it makes typing these posts much easier
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To: KennyV
To: KennyV
<> Once ya click on that site, mebbe ya can click on Matt Chapter 16 and read the commentary; especially about verse 18 and folowing:)<>
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Catholicguy; RnMomof7; drstevej
See post # 20, Mack.
So much for your HSITS (Holy Spirit Interprets Sacred Scripture)
YOPIOS in regard to your HSITS theory doesn't hold water, there's no scriptural proof that you individually will be lead to a proper understanding of scripture. Peter says otherwise here. Christ says he gives His Church authority not individuals divorced from His Church.
CatholicGuy,
Don't forget the excerpt in Acts where the eunich admits its impossible to understand scripture unless someone (in this case the Apostles) teaches him the proper interpretation. Again, Acts disproves HSITS.
Do you remember the chapter and verse?
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posted on
10/20/2002 5:51:17 AM PDT
by
Polycarp
To: Catholicguy; sitetest
In my mind its the former, not the latter, with the accent on the first syllable. (Hey, since I coined the mnemonic, I get to establish pronunciation guidelines, right?)
What about YOPIOSism and YOPIOSists? Or is it YOPIOSites.
Maybe Sitetest should way in on that last one.
"YOPIOSiswrong" has potential for a screen name too.
All in good fun, of course, no offense intended...no more than those who say we're condemned to hell but only because they love us.
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posted on
10/20/2002 5:56:43 AM PDT
by
Polycarp
To: Polycarp
Dear Polycarp,
Well, if the proper pronunciation of yopios is YO' pee iss, then I think that yopioSITE (YO' pee o SIT") [long "o" in third syllable, secondary emphasis on "site"] is preferable to yopioSIST.
If it were preferable to pronounce yopios as yo PEE' os, then yopioSIST would be preferable.
Try them out for yourself. Roll 'em around in your mouth, you'll see.
sitetest
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posted on
10/20/2002 6:19:04 AM PDT
by
sitetest
To: Polycarp
Oh my, are we actually being invited into the catholic sanctuary:)
Becky
To: Polycarp
No need to reply, I've just found this abbreviation to be helpful, that's all.
1 posted on 10/19/02 8:38 AM Central by Polycarp
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2 posted on 10/19/02 8:39 AM Central by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
This is my new handy nmemonic for the error of sola scriptura as it applies to you folks today. I just copied and pasted this from another thread.
"You folks" is of course our protestant separated brethren.
3 posted on 10/19/02 8:41 AM Central by Polycarp
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Your quite taken with your own imagined cleverness aren't you?, and think everyone else is too, LOL
Becky
To: Polycarp
KUDOS for YOPIOS!!!
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10/20/2002 8:06:51 AM PDT
by
Dajjal
To: Polycarp
<> Excellent example. Remember also, Acts wherein Jesus personally confronts Saul. Jesus doesn't tell him, "Look, Saul, stop persecuting me. Now, go read the Bible."
No, he sends him to the nascent Catholic Church for catechesis AND to have his blindness cured.
Scripture itself witnesses AGAINST SOLA SCRIPTURA and witnesses that Jesus ACTS THROUGH HIS CATHOLIC CHURCH HE ESTABLISHED,but, sola scriptura folks are blinded by the oral traditions of the 16th century heretics so they dont even acknowledge the plain facts of scripture<>
To: Polycarp; JHavard; Havoc; OLD REGGIE; Iowegian; glory; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; ...
LOL How about PWTHSNR or
people without the Holy Spirit need Rome? Works for me.. What do the spirit filed protestants think
BTW Poly How were you saved again. Was it under the administration of the word"? Are you saved by the sacrifice of the mass or the sacrifice of Calvery..you had better decide
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posted on
10/20/2002 10:19:30 AM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
see my 30...There are some people that forget what the Holy Spirit leading you is like..they go back to the Blind guides...and they will both fall into the pit..(and ya that is scripture)
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10/20/2002 10:21:27 AM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
What do you mean by "the Holy Spirit leading you"? Would you like to share with us what that experience is like for you?
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posted on
10/20/2002 10:29:19 AM PDT
by
St.Chuck
To: Catholicguy; Polycarp
Psa 119:105 . Thy word [is] a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. ..written by the man after God's own heart
It is amazing that Jesus and the Apostles managed to use scripture ansd condem the religion of tradition and laws..I wonder if Jesus had a handy dandy pope to ask?
Mat 2:5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Mat 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Mat 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Mat 11:10 For this is [he], of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Mat 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Mat 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.
Mat 26:31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.
Mar 1:2 As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with [their] lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mar 9:12 And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.
Mar 9:13 But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him.
Mar 14:21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
Mar 14:27 And Jesus saith unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered.
Luk 2:23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;)
Luk 3:4 As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Luk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Luk 4:10 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
Luk 7:27 This is [he], of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Luk 19:46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
Jhn 6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.
Jhn 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Jhn 12:14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,
Act 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
Act 7:42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices [by the space of] forty years in the wilderness?
Act 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Act 23:5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, [even] God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Rom 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Rom 15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.
Rom 15:9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for [his] mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.
Rom 15:21 But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand.
1Cr 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Cr 1:31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
1Cr 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Cr 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1Cr 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Cr 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as [were] some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
1Cr 14:21 In the law it is written, With [men of] other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.
2Cr 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;
2Cr 8:15 As it is written, He that [had gathered] much had nothing over; and he that [had gathered] little had no lack.
2Cr 9:9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, [thou] barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Hbr 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
1Pe 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
Mar 11:17 And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Jhn 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Act 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
Mat 2:5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Mat 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Mat 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Mat 11:10 For this is [he], of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Mat 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Mat 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.
Mat 26:31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.
Mar 1:2 As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with [their] lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mar 9:12 And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.
Mar 9:13 But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him.
Mar 14:21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
Mar 14:27 And Jesus saith unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered.
Luk 2:23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;)
Luk 3:4 As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Luk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Luk 4:10 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
Luk 7:27 This is [he], of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Luk 19:46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
Jhn 6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.
Jhn 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Jhn 12:14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,
Act 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
Act 7:42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices [by the space of] forty years in the wilderness?
Act 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Act 23:5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, [even] God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Rom 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Rom 15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.
Rom 15:9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for [his] mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.
Rom 15:21 But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand.
1Cr 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Cr 1:31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
1Cr 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Cr 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1Cr 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Cr 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as [were] some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
1Cr 14:21 In the law it is written, With [men of] other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.
2Cr 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;
2Cr 8:15 As it is written, He that [had gathered] much had nothing over; and he that [had gathered] little had no lack.
2Cr 9:9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, [thou] barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Hbr 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
1Pe 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1Cr 9:10 Or saith he [it] altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, [this] is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.
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posted on
10/20/2002 10:29:25 AM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: St.Chuck
Ask poly for him to post his testimony...
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
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posted on
10/20/2002 10:31:07 AM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: Polycarp
How about if the Sola Scriptura people adopt YOPIOTPOPIOS to use in regard to the opinions that Catholics make about scripture? Your own personal interpretation of the Pope's own personal interpretation of scripture.
To: RnMomof7; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
LOL How about PWTHSNR or people without the Holy Spirit need Rome? Works for me..
I think it is best to let idiots play their idiot games. Ignore them.
To: Catholicguy
I don't know why they read the Bible or have one...Scripture was tested, put together by Apostolic Tradition..
To: Irisshlass
Anyone go to church and pray here??? Protestants who accuse Catholics of following man's traditions are following man's new tradition of owning a computer and chatting on the internet all day and night...also called idolatry (your God the internet).
To: RnMomof7
Ask poly for him to post his testimony...I'm interested in your experience(s?). You say that "some people that forget what the Holy Spirit leading you is like...". Do you know what it is like? Would you care to share what it is like? Or are you one who has forgotten what it is like? I'm familiar with poly's testimony, but you made the claim that infers that you remember what the Holy Spirit leading you is like. What's it like?
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posted on
10/20/2002 11:19:19 AM PDT
by
St.Chuck
To: Irisshlass
So, why are you here today?
40
posted on
10/20/2002 11:23:27 AM PDT
by
Wrigley
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