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To: Catholicguy
Last week, the Priest sermonised about Sanctifying Grace in connection with the Wedding Garment. Frankly, that is the first time I have heard that explained in about forever.

Same here. And I needed that last Sunday. If you look hard enough, you can find this in the NO. It's a matter of putting some effort into it. Some things I don't like about it, but if the homily is good, it makes overlooking the atrocious music a lot easier. And the great thing is that you really don't have to sing along. I quit joining in at offertory. You miss too much with your nose burried in a songbook.

Latin Mass was very much discouraged in my youth. In fact, I've been told I would hate it, but considering the sources, I think pop culture has had a great influence. I'd like to judge for myself, but the only Latin Mass close to me is at an hour I can't get there. If the early Mass somewhere close was Latin, I'd try it.
76 posted on 10/17/2002 7:05:18 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona
Latin Mass was very much discouraged in my youth. In fact, I've been told I would hate it, but considering the sources, I think pop culture has had a great influence. I'd like to judge for myself, but the only Latin Mass close to me is at an hour I can't get there. If the early Mass somewhere close was Latin, I'd try it.

I tried it at a cathedral in Bratislava, Slovakia. Worthwhile. Plus easier to understand with my Latin education than Slovak.

Regards, Ivan

78 posted on 10/17/2002 7:36:50 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Desdemona
If you look hard enough, you can find this in the NO. It's a matter of putting some effort into it

<> Prior to the revision of the 1962 Roman Missal, there were MANY stolid and banal celebrations of the old rite. All that is now forgotten. I used to go Msgr. Nolan's Mass because he could say it in less than 30 mins, including sermon. All those abuses are forgottten and those attracted to the 1962 Roman Missal are being introduced to it by priests who are extremely circumspect in their Rubrical obedience. Many scholas are being formed with an attentive seriousness. My old Choir, excepting Holy Days, was terse and perfunctory. The past is looking better and beter - especially for those that never experienced it<>

However, prior to that, as the Pope noted, folks were either non attentive, praying the Rosary, putting in their time, priests were racing through the Mass, etc. All that is now forgotten and the phrase "The most beautiful thing this side of heaven" makes one envision a pristine past that never existed.

Look, were it true that everything within the old rite was copacetic, the Infallible Vatican Two Ecumenical Council would not have been led by the Holy Spirit to undertake a revision of the Liturgy.

And if those who feel an attachment to the old liturgy had stayed and applied their energies to the normative Mass, there would be FAR fewer abuses those very same folks routinely complain about.<>

83 posted on 10/17/2002 8:49:13 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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