[sinkspur]

Simply put, if the majority of American Catholics know so little about their Faith that they consistently vote for the Party Of Moloch, then the probability that the selfsame majority favours the continued primacy of the Nervous Ordo hardly tells in favour of the N.O. Mass.

That doesn't follow.

If the majority of American Catholics who favor the Novus Ordo eat carrots, does that "hardly tell in favour" of the Novus Ordo? Or of carrots?

Non-sequitur.

Do you know any traditionalists at all who have voted Democrat?

Other than on the anonymity of Free Republic, I don't know any traditionalists.

[Goetz_von_Berlichingen]

The Democrat party supports abortion (as well as triumphalist secularism and various forms of deviancy). Voting Democrat, therefore, is a moral choice.

And that choice, for the Catholic majority that votes Democrat, demonstrates pretty clearly that the voters either do not know or do not care what their Church teaches. This being the case, I fail to see how their support for the NO Mass should carry any weight whatsoever.

If you were to tell me that Teddy Kennedy or Mario Cuomo support the primacy of the N.O., it would carry the same weight.

This is only a non sequitur if you can demonstrate that voting for the Abortion Party is not a moral choice, and that one can still be a good Catholic and vote Democrat. Carrots have nothing to do with it.