[Polycarp]

Catholics all across the spectrum are coming to recognize the superiority of the Latin Mass.

I don't think "superiority" is exactly the right word, but it is close.

Why?

Christ is present, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, at every Catholic mass, whether Novus Ordo or Tridentine.

Christ is infinite.

His Presence at both masses is equal.

The Catechesis of this reality in the Novus Ordo is certainly inferior.

The reverance of the preponderance of Novus Ordo masses I've attended is far inferior to that of the Tridentine Masses I've attended, but...

The Novus Ordo masses in Latin at Mother Angelica's new shrine in Alabama was the single most sacred, reverent, beautiful, comprehensible, and moving masses I've ever attended.

I've attended the Indult Tridentine Latin masses in Cleveland, Erie, and Pittsburgh, (and I'll probably be back to the Indult mass at St Rose in Cleveland this weekend while I'm at a medical conference there) but none of them hold a candle to the Novus Ordo mass in Latin I attended in Alabama.

Christ is present in all these masses.

To say He is less present at one or the other is simply heretical.

To say that sacramentally the Novus Ordo is inferior is also heretical.

To say that prudentially, the Novus Ordo is lacking in Catechesis and often abused or celebrated with little reverence or sacredness, and is even in some cases an illicit mass, as compared to the Tridentine Rite, and thus prudentially the Tridentine Rite may be superior, may be correct. Of course, one must note that while certain Novus Ordo masses are said in an illicit way, all SSPX masses are by the nature of the schism of the SSPX intrinsically illicit until Pope JPII says otherwise.

[Maximilian]

If you're going to be in Cleveland, St. Rose is nice, but you might want to try the other indult Mass on the East Side. It's at Immaculate Conception on Superior around 30th. If you're staying downtown, it's only 5 minutes away, just past the Cleveand State campus. It's a more traditional service, and has a very nice congregation. I've been there twice, as well as to St. Rose's several times. Fr. Viall is gone from St. Rose's, so I don't know what it's like now. If the conference is out on the East Side off I-271, then you may want to try the FSSP parish in Vienna. If you take Rte 422 from I-271, it's about 45 minutes. It's a full Latin Mass parish with 2 FSSP priests on staff. They have a new pastor since I was there last, but you'll certainly get a very reverent service.

[ninenot]

We drive about 15 miles to attend a VERY reverent, partial-Latin NO Mass--the option is about 3 miles to the local parish which has an increasingly -flagrant- abuse -of -the -ritual problem. The more distant Church is also older--vaulted ceiling, stained glass, elaborate woodcarved reredos, "high" pulpit, etc., etc.

The first time our 8-year-old was in the more distant Church, she opened her mouth and announced that "this Church is BEAUTIFUL."

Out of the mouths....

I would like it if the inventor of the "children's Mass" would spend the rest of his/her days changing diapers endlessly. Perhaps an understanding of the native intelligence of children would, ah, rub off...

[NYer]

The Novus Ordo masses in Latin at Mother Angelica's new shrine in Alabama was the single most sacred, reverent, beautiful, comprehensible, and moving masses I've ever attended.

A M E N !! This is the Novus Ordo mass that I would love to see in my parish. Until then, there is always EWTN.

[.45MAN]

I have a feeling that in the next couple of weeks we will be going to St. Francis de Sales and then to Mother Angelica's new shrine in Alabama, I am lucky enough to be within a few miles of St. Francis and not all that far from Mother Angelica's. Ikeep thinking about what it was like growing up with the Latin Mass and I do miss it. We have a wonderful small church here and it is very reverent and you can hear a pin drop at any time before and during the Mass but it is not the Latin Mass...

[al_c]

Christ is present, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, at every Catholic mass, whether Novus Ordo or Tridentine.

Good point. Just because the Tridentine is not widely available at this time, that doesn't mean we don't get a complete dose of our blessed Lord.