Pope To Add New Mysteries to the Rosary

Catholic World News (Via Diocese Report) ^ | October 14, 2002 | Staff

[Loyalist]

POPE TO ADD NEW MYSTERIES TO THE ROSARY

VATICAN, Oct 16, 02 (CWNews.com) -- Pope John Paul II will release an apostolic letter on devotion to the Virgin Mary on October 16-- the anniversary of his election to the pontificate-- according to informed Vatican sources.

Leaks from the Vatican, in anticipation of the document's release, suggest that the Pope will introduce five new mysteries to the Rosary. The five new mysteries, the "luminous mysteries," will focus on the public life of Jesus Christ, Vatican sources say. They will be: the Baptism in the Jordan, the temptation in the desert, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Transfigurations, and the entry into Jerusalem.

The Rosary is a traditional Marian devotion, popularized at first by St. Bernard, later by the Dominican order, and still later by St. Louis Marie Grignon de Montfort. The Rosary is composed of five joyful mysteries (which are recited on Mondays and Thursdays), five sorrowful mysteries (recited on Tuesdays and Saturdays), and five glorious mysteries (Wednesdays, Saturdays, and Sundays.) The five new mysteries would reportedly be used on Saturdays.

posted by Brian Barcaro 10/14/2002 08:31:16 AM

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

I think the sticking point is vanity. If the words are said simply and are sincere, there is no vanity. We do not know what Christ considers vain, just what man does.

Interesting, and I agree. But given this intrepration of this verse, how then do you intreprate Matt.23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in Heave,.

I believe this is a matter of your sincerity also, IOW's, what is in your heart when using this title. I take it Jesus was speaking of calling a man "father" in the spiritual sense. What is the sense you use this title when addressing a priest.

Becky

[Catholicguy]

7 And when you are praying, speak not much, as the heathens. For they think that in their much speaking they may be heard.

<> For starters, Heathens were not praying "and blessed is the fruit of they womb, Jesus...." Had they been, Jesus would not have objected.

Show me in Scripture where Jesus said the Catholic Church He established would fail and that the ordinary Christian would have to wait 16 Centuries to have Docttrine taught correctly for the first time and, when Doctrine was finally taught correctly, that Doctrine (such as the Eucharist)that had always been taught would then be condemned as lies, perversions and heathen and pagan superstition? Where exactly in the New Testament is all that stuff?<>

[Desdemona]

But given this intrepration of this verse, how then do you intreprate Matt.23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in Heave,.

Becky, this is completely unrelated to the Rosary. If you're going to soundbite, I think the better verse is Matt 23:12 "Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled, but whoever humbles himself shall be exalted."

It really needs to read in context. The first seven verses of Matt 23 set the comparison. The verse you quote is part of a larger rebuttal.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

I agree it was off topic about the rosary, I just have seen the way these two verses are intreprated as similar. Discerning when it is literal and when it is not. No offense intended.

Becky

[Catholicguy]

http://www.ccel.org/a/aquinas/catena/Matthew/ch06.htm

<>Here is a link for the exegesis of the early Christian FATHERS. Notice how different their true beliefs differ from the 16th Century Heretics.<>

[Catholicguy]

http://www.ccel.org/a/aquinas/catena/Matthew/ch16.htm

<> You foks better read Matt 16:18 exegesis for what the Earll Catholic Church Fathers taught. You've been lied to<>

[Desdemona]

You foks better read Matt 16:18 exegesis for what the Earll Catholic Church Fathers taught. You've been lied to

CG, better offer some decades to St. Jude Thaddeus. We need him.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

What was the lie? Sorry but you have lost me.

Becky

[biblewonk]

we venerate Mary.

venerate, adore, hail, sing about, sing to, pray to... = worship.

[biblewonk]

"There be some here which shall not taste of death..."

Are you sure you have the right verse to mutilate?

[ksen]

We don't worship Mary, we venerate Mary.

Excerpted from Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum located here:

17. For to be right and good, worship of the Mother of God ought to spring from the heart; acts of the body have here neither utility nor value if the acts of the soul have no part in them.

Written by Pope Pius X.

According to Pope Pius X, Mary is to be worshipped…..

[biblewonk]

WRONG. The Bible does NOT say "anyone who repeats John 3:16 X numbers of time is engaged in vain repitition."

Yes it does but here's a hint. When you do your search for where it says this, don't look for john 3:16.

[Desdemona]

According to Pope Pius X, Mary is to be worshipped

According to the Catechism - which is current, oficial church teaching - Mary is venerated.

[eastsider]

Demonstrating yet again that the words have more than one meaning and that living languages change.

[biblewonk]

The Church is the Author (and the only legitimate Guardian) of the Bible through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Or, one could say, the Holy Spirit is the Author through the Church. The Church and only the Church wrote the Bible and rightfully decides about the contents of the Sacred Scriptures -- what Books are the Bible and what are not. The Church and only the Church decides what particular translations are inspired, and the Church and only the Church rightfully decides about interpretation (Peter 1:20) of the Sacred Scriptures.

I was behind you all the way and ready to say Amen until you got here.

[ELS]

I'd like to see the original Latin version and which Latin word was translated to worship.

[biblewonk]

The methodist in front of me has a female pastor who dodged the question "is the bible historically accurate?". I'd rather go to an RC church (eeeeuuuwww) than there.

[Catholicguy]

And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

<> Matthew 16:18. I would have thought that even you could have found that verse.<>

[eastsider]

The English word worship was often used in the past with respect to Marian devotion; however, it was so used in a colloquial sense (as in, "He worships the ground she walks on"), not in a technical sense.

[ksen]

I'd like to see the original Latin version and which Latin word was translated to worship.

This encyclical came up over at The Neverending Story and no one was able to find the Latin version.

However, this translation is directly from the Vatican's own web-site. I would think that they know how to properly translate Latin into English.