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I am not imagining things at all. Here is what you said a few posts ago. You spoke of "vitriol and insulting polemics". You spoke of "personal pride and ego and despair replacing charity". You called these battle-lines of "personal destruction". Then you added the following zinger:

"Neither side can win using such tactics. And the Church loses.

And when the Church 'loses,' souls are lost for eternity.

That is why I rarely engage Ultima Ratio and HDMZ on these threads, except for a brief occasional exchange"

So you see, you mischaracterize the situation. I think that was about as personal as you could get. "Such tactics" mean that "souls are lost for eternity." THAT IS WHY you "rarely engage" me and HDMZ, etc.

I'm still waiting to find out when I did such horrible things.

And when the Church 'loses,' souls are lost for eternity. That is why I rarely engage Ultima Ratio and HDMZ on these threads, except for a brief occasional exchange"

You read more into my posts than I intend. I apologize for making you think I was referring to you personally. My references were to the leaders of these two camps in general. I mentioned specifically that I try to avoid these debates here, specifically with you two.

Again, I was not intending to make it personal, and I apologize if you took it that way..