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To: RnMomof7
<> It seems to be the Calvinist position that everything is predetermined. Even that I am predetermined to go to Hell. That dark doctrine makes of Jesus a Liar. You are welcome to it. I want no part of that Evil.

IF all had been predetermined, then one would have to conclude that Jesus established His Church, sent the Holy Spirit upon it to Teach it all truth, promised to be with His Church until the end of time but He was intentionallly Lying. He REALLY did not intend that.

No, according to the logic of Calvinism, He established His Catholic Church to spread errors and falsehoods, lies, and false Doctrine for 16 Centuries before finally raising up the great champion Calvin to set everything right.

In the meantime 100's of millions of Christians lived and died and were sent to Hell for everlasting punishment for believing the false doctrine spread by the Catholic Church that Jesus established because that was the predetermined plan of God. Serves them bastards right

Yep, it all makes perfect sense to me when I look at it that way.:)<>

<> This is your Faith. And it is the Faith that the_doc got you to accept. Do you think for a nanosecond I'd fall for such evil insanity?<>

638 posted on 10/10/2002 12:26:16 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
Worry less about your church and more about your soul...

Do you think God was surprised by the Heresies   in the Catholic church?

You assume that it was the "Roman Catholic" church was the ever the church of God.

Jesus left a church that within a few generations was apostate..When it was His time He removed the candlestick...

Peter gave a warning soon lost in the sale of indulgences and the replacment of the word of God with the traditions of men

2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know [these things] before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

Your salvation is not in your church ..or any church. Your salvation is in Jesus Christ alone...not his mother or St. Jude....not in outward acts that attempt to make God your debtor...

Salavation is as the apostles preached only in the cross of Christ

656 posted on 10/10/2002 1:07:36 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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