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To: Aquinasfan
In a sense Israel was the Ark of the Ark of the Covenant since the Ark was entrusted to Israel's care. Can the Church be the Ark of the New Covenant? In the sense that Mary (the Ark of the New Covenant) was entrusted to the care of the Church (Jesus entrusts Mary to John at Calvary), the Church can be considered the Ark of the Ark of the New Covenant.

That my friend is gobbly gook...first you say Ahhh Mary is the ark...then yea well so is Israel...and ahh so is the Chuch...can Jessie be the ark too? I am sure we can make him "fit"

The main attraction in the second room was the Ark of the Covenant, because this is where God sent His presence to talk to Moses.  What was the ark?  The word ark means chest.  It was a box of wood that was covered with pure gold. 

Inside the box, Moses was commanded to place the Tables of Law, the actual stone tablets on which the Ten Commandments were engraved.  As time went by, other items were placed in the ark, including the pot of manna and Aaron's rod that budded.  

Again, God was revealing more and more about His nature and how much He loves us with each item used in the worship services.  The law meant that we had to be obedient to God.  Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not to destroy it.  The manna reminded the people that we are to depend on God daily for our life.  It was a constant reminder that God provides for us.  The rod that budded showed that God chooses who He desires to serve Him.  Aaron was chosen to be a priest before God.  God loves each of us and shows favor to some to become priests.  The rod was a symbol of authority and all authority rests with God.  Finally, the mercy seat sat on top of the ark.  The cherubim or angels on each end faced each other and covered the ark with their wings.   How appropriate that it was called the mercy seat, because this was where God met with his people and forgave them of their sins.

Jesus was the ark:>)

506 posted on 10/09/2002 2:41:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
No, I'm the Ark.

your arkness, Jesse Mary Joseph 1st

507 posted on 10/09/2002 2:43:08 PM PDT by JesseShurun
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To: RnMomof7
and ahh so is the Chuch

Who's Chuck?

Alright Chuckie boy, that little red haired girl is NO PROBLEM!

Doncha just miss Charlie Schultz every now 'n' then?

508 posted on 10/09/2002 2:43:51 PM PDT by xzins
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To: RnMomof7
Again, God was revealing more and more about His nature and how much He loves us with each item used in the worship services.  The law meant that we had to be obedient to God.  Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not to destroy it.  The manna reminded the people that we are to depend on God daily for our life.  It was a constant reminder that God provides for us.  The rod that budded showed that God chooses who He desires to serve Him.  Aaron was chosen to be a priest before God.  God loves each of us and shows favor to some to become priests.  The rod was a symbol of authority and all authority rests with God. 

Overall, this is very weak.

The Decalogue or God's "ten words" was the type of Jesus, "the Word made flesh." No disagreement there.

But you don't even offer the manna as a type except as that "The manna reminded the people that we are to depend on God daily for our life." But the manna was bread from Heaven. Bread from Heaven is inferior as a type to "reminding people that we are to depend on God." Jesus says "I am the living bread that came down from heaven." Therefore the manna is a type for Jesus. Jesus is clearly a superior bread from Heaven as stated explicitly in Scripture: "This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever."

You suggest that Aaron's staff "was a symbol of authority and all authority rests with God." True enough, but who's authority does it symbolize? Aaron's staff foreshadowed Jesus' authority as the eternal High Priest, but in the order of Melchizedek: "If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come–one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? (Hebrews 7:11)." He (Jesus) has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek. (Hebrews 6:20)"

What did Melchizedek do? "Then Melchizedek king of Salem [ literally "Peace" ] brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High." So Jesus must then be sacrificing "bread and wine" eternally to God Most High just as Melchizedek did since "He (Jesus) has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek."

In fact Jesus offers up bread and wine transformed into his Body and Blood at the last supper:

"While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body. (Matthew 26:26)" "In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you. ( Luke 22:20)"

The Apostles continue this sacrament (Christ offers up His Body and Blood through the Apostles):

23For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." 25In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me." 26For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes. 27Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep [died]. (1 Corinthians 11)

Wasn't Jesus' death on the Cross sufficient to accomplish the redemption of mankind? Certainly. At the Eucharist Jesus (acting through the priest) offers up His Body and Blood (under the appearance of bread and wine). It is a re-presentation of Calvary, that is, the Eucharist makes Calvary present. It is not another Calvary, but the same event, just as the Passover meal was and is understood by Jews as a means of re-presenting or making present the Exodus event.
547 posted on 10/10/2002 5:10:13 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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