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To: theAmbassador
<> Calvinists have made Calvin a God. Mary is worthier. Mary is the Mother of God, Theotokos. Calvin is the Mother of egregious and hateful doctrine. Mary wins.

I prefer my own words words to the false ones you attribute to me.<>

Unless you prefer to make God the creator of what you called "egregious and hateful doctrine" then you must have Calvin as its creator.

<>Not at all. His "Doctrine" comes from Satan. The scorpion's egg of "You shall be like Gods" was implanted in his intellect. Calvin's Will fertislised it and the bastard child was brought forth- Calvin's Dark Doctrines - and those with itching ears, anxious for new doctrine sallied forth to worship the Mother of errors and His child . <>

Thus, in the context and meaning of "mother" we must default to creator as its meaning.

<> Is your Mother your Creator?<>

Therefore, I conclude that you said that Mary is the creator of God, Theotokos

<> LMAO. NOTHING a Calvinist concludes surprises me anymore. <>

411 posted on 10/09/2002 10:17:30 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy; Matchett-PI; the_doc; RnMomof7; CCWoody; Wrigley

<>His "Doctrine" comes from Satan. The scorpion's egg of "You shall be like Gods" was implanted in his intellect. Calvin's Will fertislised it and the bastard child was brought forth- Calvin's Dark Doctrines - and those with itching ears, anxious for new doctrine sallied forth to worship the Mother of errors and His child.<> ~ Catholicguy

<> LMAO I get all tingly and whatnot when I am called a "reprobate." To REALLY please me, tell me I will spend eternity in Hell. :) Oh, that's right. Reprobate means I AM predetermined for Hell. That being the case, why waste your time on one like me?<>

You need to rethink your Catholic doctrine that you have been fed and get out of your Maryology and Popeology and Catholicology. Calvinism is the doctrine of the Bible; it is the doctrine that the Lord Himself taught. In this way, Jesus is a Calvinist. And you despise His teaching. This does not look good for you. Reprobation is a real thing and the Lord's wrath will reside upon all of them. You need to repent of all your idolatries from the Catholic church.

It is perfectly reasonable to expect that if a man will not glorify his Creator and bring forth those fruits (John 15:8) then such a man has use to God only in his destruction. God will gain His glory over him and he will fulfill the use to which he was created even passively by being burned in the furnace of His judgment. Our Maker will not be thwarted in His purpose for man. God endures with much longsuffering these vessels of wrath by allowing them to enjoy the things He has given him dominion over. He permits him to enjoy the warm sun and the beauty of the moon and stars and the rain and all that the earth yields. Yet, he does not glorify His Maker. So, God in His longsuffering will not forever strive with him, but will eventually gather them all together to gain the purpose for which they were created in their destruction. Why should they be permitted to enjoy the goodness of God forever when they will not bring forth any fruit? Like the Parable of the fig tree, God has given the worthless all the benefits of life on this earth and yet, he bears no fruit. Why should all creation groan under the burden of such men?

He does tell us that "He has no pleasure in the death of the wicked." Yet, it is perfectly just and righteous that God should not endure with longsuffering forever their uselessness and let them frustrate Him. So, what fault will you attribute to the Vinedresser for bundling them up and gaining use of them in their destruction? As Jonathan Edwards does point out, it would be well to consider exactly how JUST it is that all men share in the same end as the wicked. So, I am moved to praise God for even offering grace to a single man.

When the saints go forth and look upon the corpses of the men who have transgressed against [God] shall we not be moved to a greater sense of awareness of just how wonderful the unmerited grace of God really is? Shall the saints not rejoice to know that we are not the objects of God fierce wrath? Shall the saints not fall down and give God glory through praise and worship? Shall we not feel awe and wonder to simply know that the only difference between the saints and the reprobate is the free grace of God that He has in His sovereignty bestowed? Will the saints not tell the angels of the wonders of God's grace and will the angels not look with wonder at the redeemed for the shedding of their Maker's blood which He poured out for the saints?

475 posted on 10/09/2002 1:25:43 PM PDT by theAmbassador
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