To: Irisshlass
"who is the source here?" Your reply is so off-base it's hilarious! You totally blew off the POINT of the whole post. Either you didn't read it, or it's over your head.
FYI, one of the *sources* is Roman Catholic theologian and cardinal, Yves Congar. LOL
Here again, is an excerpt:
This new perspective on tradition is also well expressed by Roman Catholic theologian and cardinal, Yves Congar. In light of the lack of historical support for a number of the Roman Catholic dogmas, Congar sets forth this new approach of living tradition:
[snip] See reply #383 for what he (and other Catholics) "sets forth", since you seem to have missed it the first time.
To: Matchett-PI
FYI, one of the *sources* is Roman Catholic theologian and cardinal, Yves Congar. LOL
He didn't write your post you pasted...give me a link...
To: Matchett-PI
<>"who is the source here?"
Your reply is so off-base it's hilarious! You totally blew off the POINT of the whole post. Either you didn't read it, or it's over your head.<>
Webster:
"Irenaeus and Tertullian had to contend with the Gnostics who were the very first to suggest and teach that they possessed an Apostolic oral Tradition that was independent from Scripture. These early fathers rejected such a notion and appealed to Scripture alone for the proclamation and defense of doctrine."
Since this runs along the same lines..I suppose this is your source..
Cardinal Yves Congar's... Congar Yves, "Tradition and traditions" New York:Macmillan, 1967, pp 1,2,4,5.
" 'Tradition', as it existed in Israel, is usually presented to us in three forms. (1) An original oral tradition. In what constitutes the Jewish idea of an oral tradition of the Torah, from Moses up to the 'Men of the Great Synagogue'...(2) Precision...Here tradition operates not as mere transmission, but as the reading of inspired texts, already written down and familiar, in the light of present experiences, or of events longed for by the very people involved in the expectation...(3) Interpretation...And so there came into being in Judaism schools for the interpretation of the Law. These were characterized by a principle of transmission or tradition...this accumulated wisdom of many generations, though originally completely dependent on Scripture, had a value of its own. It was held to come from God no less than Scripture itself and was treated with the same respect."
The church was against secret oral message, secret tradition of the Gnostics...not apostlic tradition...
Read what the fathers said instead of anti-catholic...misinterrupation.
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