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To: xzins; Dr Steve
So was Saint Anne sinless and was Marys Father sinless?

Job 14:4 Who can bring a clean [thing] out of an unclean? not one..

Scott bends the word to fit his theology as I proved on another thread..He is a man that likes getting attention a token convert ...my guess unregenerate..

175 posted on 10/08/2002 10:24:40 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; drstevej; Frumanchu
Exactly. Add that to Frumanchu's above argument. So far we have:

Why not Jesus' other brothers and sisters (us?)
Why not Jesus' grandparents?
Where back the line do you decide the Son isn't impressed with his ancestors?

Your scripture speaks to that at some point in that ancestral lineage...."clean coming out of an unclean."

So, DrJ, the Bible is silent with rebuttal, is it?

If by silence, then you mean to ignore what is convincing other people, then I (for me) don't like that argument about silence before silence.

Hahn admits in his book that there is no scripture about the immaculate conception. The only scripture he finds about the assumption is the Rev passage about the woman caught up to God's throne.

Despite the paucity of evidence and the paucity of argument from our perspective, if others like the evidence, then what is your rebuttal?

184 posted on 10/08/2002 10:45:58 AM PDT by xzins
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To: RnMomof7
Scott bends the word to fit his theology as I proved on another thread..He is a man that likes getting attention a token convert ...my guess unregenerate

<> Scott Hahn is a brilliant man. You have "proved" no such thing. The only thing you prove, on a daily basis, is that you are among the most UnChristian individuals on these theads.

Now, Scott is, I guess, "unregenerate," and who would know with more accuracy than Rnmom who reads the intent of others and routinely tells others they are going to Hell.

This is a learned and highly intelligent man and when he gives of himself to share his love of Scripture with others, I am not surprised to see Rnmom claim his real intent is to "get attention," and he is a mere "token convert," instead of giivng him his just due.

Scott says his conversion is genuine, that it cost him MANY friendships, a good paying job etc etc. IMMATERIAL, the Calvinists tell me otherwise. Who am I to listen to the one who actually went through that conversion process and writes and speaks about it with such passion and conviction when I have my handy-dandy Calvinist Interpreter, Rnmom, who will tell all and sundry what Scott REALLY experienced and intended?

If they were not so evil, your actions would be funny. I guess this is just more proof you have been predetermined for Heaven and those that disagree with you are predetermind for Hell.<>

200 posted on 10/08/2002 11:07:14 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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