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Hellfire And Brimstone Preaching
http://www.christianinformer.org/2k01hell.htm ^ | 10/5/02 | Richard Nichols

Posted on 10/04/2002 11:30:35 PM PDT by RnMomof7

Hellfire And Brimstone Preaching

Years ago, after a service, people would get up off the benches, and come out the old meeting house doors, telling to each other who they enjoyed that "hellfire and brimstone sermon." Now days the people politely arise from their padded pews, step lightly over the carpet, exchange some pleasantries with their friends, and as they pass out the doors of their lovely place of worship, they compliment their preacher for the beautiful uplifting lesson that he has so eloquently delivered. (And the man knows he'd better continue to give those "uplifting" chapel talks if he wants to stay long there). Back a few years ago when Christians "knew their Bible" and the preachers preached hard against sin, there were a few who didn't like it, but the majority of truly converted children of God appreciated it. Where is the hard preaching!?!

One time Jesus said, "Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you." We are then told that, "Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?" (John 6:53,60,61). Jesus knew that His preaching offended some, but he didn't change His preaching. When John the Baptist "saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance" (Matthew 3:7,8). When John saw Herod married to his own brother's wife, he said to Herod, "It is not lawful for thee to have her" (Matthew 14:4). Peter told the Jews on Pentecost day (Acts 2:23), "Him... ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain."

Today Some Complain

There are people in the church who whine and grumble about how hard some gospel preachers preach. Some "Christians" even move from one congregation to another in order to escape hearing hard preaching. These same people seem to sit around criticizing the "hard preachers." From this attitude, which causes problems among God's people, there raise several questions: First, what is hard preaching? Second, is hard preaching wrong? Third, why would a Christian be opposed to hard preaching? Fourth, why would a preacher preach hard?

What Is Hard Preaching?

Everyone has an answer for this question. The answers will vary and will be influenced by the sermon content, as well as the hearer's attitude toward the preacher. But Webster defines hard as "Opposed to soft; carried on energetically or persistently; earnest; displaying severity." Preaching is commonly defined as, "A sermon; the delivery in public of a public message." Therefore, hard preaching is basically a message from the Bible that is presented energetically, persistently in words that some may think are harsh or severe.

Is Hard Preaching Wrong?

Is it wrong to preach the word energetically and persistently? NO! The area of disagreement seems to center around the words used by the preacher in his preaching. Is there a place for severe words in preaching? Jesus thought there was; He said, "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" (Matthew 23:33). Read Matthew 23 and see how many times Jesus called His hearers "hypocrites". He never held back to spare the feelings of his listeners. On another occasion, Christ said, "Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition," and then tells them that their worship is rendered in vain (Mark 7:9). The Master very strict when He said, "...no one cometh unto the Father, but by me" (John 6:60,61)! Others were offended at His preaching. The Bible says, "Then came the disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, when they heard this saying" (Matthew 15:12). Jesus knew the effect of His severe words, but He continued to employ them.

Stephen's Hard Preaching

Stephen evidently believed in severe words, too. He said, "Ye stiff necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Spirit: as your fathers did, so do you" (Acts 7:51). This hard sermon cost Stephen his life!

What About The Loving John?

John, the apostle of love, used severe words when he said, "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him" (1 John 2:4). Language could not be clearer. From the example of Jesus, Stephen, John and many others, hard preaching is not wrong. The key to hard preaching is speaking the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15).

Why Oppose Hard Preaching?

There may be several reasons, but here we notice a few: First, a Christian may not understand that hard preaching must be done. Second, he may be personally soft and passive in every area of his life. It may be that he will not take a stand on anything, or tell anybody that they are wrong, because he doesn't want to offend anyone. Third, he may be living in sin himself and doesn't want those sins brought to his attention. Someone said, "Our attitudes will determine our destiny." Fourth, he may be looking for an excuse to leave the church, or possibly cause trouble among God's people. Fifth, he may be trying to get rid of the preacher or at least shut him up. There may be other reasons why a Christian may be opposed to hard preaching, but they are all wrong.

Why Preach Hard?

Unless a preacher demonstrates otherwise, we believe that gospel preachers preach hard because it is the will of God for them to do so. The faithful gospel preacher's commission is, "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with all long suffering and doctrine." And Paul warns, "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables" (2 Timothy 4:2-4). Therefore, in order to be pleasing unto God and save his own soul, the preacher must preach hard (1 Timothy 4:16). A reading of the New Testament letters to Christians, will reveal many hard things that the preacher must use in his preaching. In so doing, he will preach the "whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:27).

Off-Limits Subjects

There are certain subjects that some preachers won't preach on. Other preachers, succumb to direct pressure in a congregation, and others attempting to pacify infantile members refuse to deliver a much needed lesson. God's prophet was pressured in 1 Kings 22:13, "And the messenger that was gone to call Micaiah spake unto him, saying, Behold now, the words of the prophets declare good unto the king with one mouth: let thy word, I pray thee, be like the word of one of them, and speak that which is good." But his reply was, "As the LORD liveth, what the LORD saith unto me, that will I speak" (v. 14).

Some demanded of Isaiah, "Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits" (30:10). Did you hear it? In other words, "We aren't interested in the truth, we just want to feel good, even if you have to tell us lies. Brother, let's beware of a constant diet of "smooth things". No doubt the psalmist had reference to literal honey when he said, "Hast thou found honey? Eat so much as is sufficient for thee, lest thou be filled therewith, and vomit it" (Proverbs 25:16). Too much "sweet talk" is also nauseating to those who realize we must all appear before Christ's judgement seat.

How About You?

Preacher, can you say with Paul, "I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have showed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house" (Acts 20:20)? And with Paul can you say that you are "...pure from the blood of all men. For [you] have not shunned to declare.... all the counsel of God" (Acts 20:26,27)?

Today, perhaps as never before, there is great need for hard preaching, and the support by God's people of that kind preaching. God's record shows that it will strengthen the saint and save the sinner.


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To: xzins

I'm tossing this out unchecked but I believe that Jesus' and any of the accounts of others in the NT using harsh words were always directed at those who were contemplating murder, planning murder, or engaged in theft.


Yea do check that out...cause I think his harsh words were for false doctrines and traditions
41 posted on 10/05/2002 1:46:46 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
See #32
42 posted on 10/05/2002 1:48:33 PM PDT by xzins
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To: RnMomof7
BTW The best hells fire preachers were always Calvinists..they know the holiness of God and the total depravity of man..

Pr.8:13, 11:2, 13:10, 14:3, 16:18.

Becky

43 posted on 10/05/2002 1:53:24 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Spiritual pride and the need to be loved are a problem Becky. They are opposite sides of the same coin ..they block truth.

Sometimes if someone has their belief system threatened they consider that "abusive" . They would rather run from the discussion than take a hard look at it.
I am sure that the religious leaders in the days of Jesus thought the apostles were abusive..not respectful. But they had a Hard truth...one that was left to us as a gift...
44 posted on 10/05/2002 1:54:06 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: wai-ming
wai you are growing up spiritually before our eyes...Keep your ears and heart open!
45 posted on 10/05/2002 1:56:45 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: xzins
I once heard the parable of the sower and the seed taught as a parent teaching table manners...there is so much error out there passing for the gospel..I left that church soon after that
46 posted on 10/05/2002 1:59:32 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Psa 101:3   I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; [it] shall not cleave to me.

Psa 119:104   Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Amo 5:15   Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.

2Ti 2:19   Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.


Defending error in the name of love is to condemn the lost to hell...that is not love it is hate
47 posted on 10/05/2002 2:03:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Thanks for the encouragement.

I still have much to learn.

48 posted on 10/05/2002 2:09:21 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: RnMomof7
Did I say anywhere that error should be defended?

Becky

49 posted on 10/05/2002 2:24:19 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: RnMomof7
I think the end of every hells fire sermon should be a declaration offering the forgivness of God to the penetient...the point should be repetance and reconcilation

eee gads - sounds like an altar call LOL

50 posted on 10/05/2002 4:02:10 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
Ya know at the reform church I have been going to the Pastor always make mention that it is essential for every man to repent and come to Christ..and If they have not they need to seek God...

Ya know Rev God saves as he chooses to save ..at the time and the place of His choosing.....and yes it could be an altar call...

51 posted on 10/05/2002 4:51:47 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Ya know Rev God saves as he chooses to save ..at the time and the place of His choosing.....and yes it could be an altar call...

yes it could be - I drew some amusement though as you frequently assail them - relax ma - youre still a bit wound up

52 posted on 10/05/2002 7:37:19 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
yea I am not a fan of altar calls with "just as I am "playing in the backround for effect..

But we are all to offer the gospel ...I think that is what He meant by Go and tell:>) ...My problem is with the emotional plea or the group pressure that comes with the typical finney/graham altar call

I like the way my new pastor does it. No one is asked to come forward..but the call is made and explained..the one week he said something like if you need to come and talk to me I will be here..nuf...IMHO..He had presented the gospel in the sermon..and explained it is a life or death situation...He offered to be there

There are lots of problems with the standard Finney call... but that does not mean that I dis all calls from the Pulpit..

53 posted on 10/05/2002 7:46:45 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
sower.....table manners?????

how'd they do that?

54 posted on 10/05/2002 8:10:21 PM PDT by xzins
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To: RnMomof7
I like the way my new pastor does it. No one is asked to come forward..but the call is made and explained..the one week he said something like if you need to come and talk to me I will be here..nuf...IMHO..He had presented the gospel in the sermon..and explained it is a life or death situation...He offered to be there

similarly done at our parent church (who comissioned our "planting" activity)- Pastor wife behaves in a similar manner.

56 posted on 10/06/2002 3:09:28 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: ImHis
Have you ever tried a Reform Baptist church? ( you do not need to be "reform" in theology to go to one. good teaching is good teaching) I just started to go to one...As the pastor there said if you do not see what a sinner you are you can not appreciate the grace and mercy of God.

That is the problem in the church today..cheap grace

57 posted on 10/06/2002 5:00:23 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: xzins; RnMomof7
Pastors who use abusive language from the pulpit can speak about: those outside their congregation who are not Christian, those outside who are Christian, those inside who are not, those inside who are.

Apparently, you Methodists are a lot tougher than I thought. I can't recall any abusive language on the above topics in the Baptist churches I've attended. But then, I do expect a minister to tell us why we're Baptist and not RC/Mormon/liberal ex-Protestants/Muslims/etc.

I don't believe delineating the distinctives of your denomination is abusive provided the description is factually accurate. My experience with non-Baptist churches is much the same. Personally, I wish we'd hear more about Baptist distinctives and comparison to other traditions so that more Baptists would themselves understand the Baptist tradition better. I would guess a lot of churches have less than half the membership who know and value the particular doctrine of their denomination enough to explain the most basic distinctives to a stranger, let alone give any sort of detailed history of it.
58 posted on 10/06/2002 6:15:41 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: RnMomof7; xzins
From the article: There are people in the church who whine and grumble about how hard some gospel preachers preach.

Huh? I haven't heard a "hard" sermon since I was a boy attending a fundamentalist church. And most of that was cheap shots at Rome and not even well-articulated.

Just where in the dickens are all these tough gospel preachers at anyway?

Of course, maybe I just don't notice. I tend to appreciate when a preacher has the courage to tell anyone they might be committing a sin. I have a certain appreciation for when the preacher is brave enough to deliver a sermon on particular sins without regard for anyone present who is in those sins. I find it especially instructive and worth hearing if he preaches against sins that I am struggling with. Maybe I'm backward but I thought that was a principal reason to attend church along with worship and prayer and fellowship.

I wouldn't care to have personal accusations of sin levelled against individuals in a service but then I've never seen such a thing happen. Other than that, preachers should regularly preach against sin. In any sizable church, you're going to have people quietly struggling with all sorts of sin or ignoring their sins. The preacher's job is to give them a general wakeup call not to be complacent about the roots of sin in their lives, to warn them how those little sins grow into big ones. It's not a popular job but it is necessary.
59 posted on 10/06/2002 6:29:53 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: RnMomof7
And you know what ? I want to be pleasing to my God..so I want to be called to account for my sin so I can repent and turn from it

Amen.

I just keep wondering who it is out there who don't want a warning against letting sin hold them captive, especially given how worldly the influence of society is in modern times.

It's already far too easy to be complacent about your own sin. I would hope the preachers don't fail us by just keeping quiet when we need most is to be told about sin ruling our lives and its effect on us as believers.
60 posted on 10/06/2002 6:34:25 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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