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To: pegleg
>>Of course, everyone knows RobRoy’s interpretations are infallible don’t they?<<

No, you are right. They are not.

I am frustrated by "myths" of all sects of Christianity. There are baloney stories in the protestant circles and there are baloney stories in the Catholic circles. I am in no way attacking anyones interpretation of the Bible. Rather, I am attacking their belief in “miracles” which were easy to perpetrate on people in a “Christian” culture that were NOT EVEN ALLOWED to read the Bible – backwards and uneducated at best.

But now these should be exposed as the cheap parlor tricks that they are. I repeat, these type of things show up in protestant circles as well. Don’t believe me, just watch the so-called “Christian” television talk shows. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not all bad, but some of it would be downright laughable, if it wasn’t so serious, spiritually.

People have a natural tendency to glom onto any “miraculous proof” as if that is what God needs to win His battle.
I once read a book by Hal Lindsey called “A walk through the holy land.” In it was a photograph of the “upper room” where someone had used a flash and a slow shutter speed in a fairly bright room, accidentally creating some “interesting” effects. It was quite obvious to any serious amateur photographer what caused the effects
Well, the notes below the picture said that the apparent apparition of a winged angel holding a cross was not seen by the photographer when he was taking the picture, but there it was in the picture. It further said that the photo had been analyzed by photography “experts” and they could not explain it.

What a crock. I repeat, it was OBVIOUS to me what had happened before I even read the notes. I was floored.

AND PEOPLE BELIEVE THIS, HOOK, LINE, AND SINKER.

Most of this stuff, on both the Catholic AND protestant side belong on Art Bell, and we should focus on His Word and obeying Christ in Love.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
64 posted on 09/25/2002 8:02:48 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
I am not quite sure why you think that not being able to read the Bible increased the credulity of medieval Chirstians. The Bible is certainly full of miraculous events. In any case, it is a falsehood that the Bible was not widely available during the Middle Ages, at least to the tens of thousands of people who --the literate--read Latin. For from the 13th Century onwards, tens of thousands of handwritten Latin Bible, the size of the personal ones we have today, were available at booksellers to anyone with the price of purchase. . Hundreds survive today, so they were not cheap. Franciscan and Dominican monks carried them with them along with their breviaries and mined them for texts for their sermons. Long before Wesley, friars of ability would attract large crowds as they preached in the open, in towns squares and even in the fields--like St. Bernardino --and preached the Gospel.
65 posted on 09/25/2002 8:18:24 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobRoy
No, you are right. They are not.

A major difference between Catholic and non-Catholic Christians is authoritative interpretation of the Bible. I follow what the scripture tells us in 1 Tim 3:15 that the church is pillar/foundation of truth. Therefore my position is the truth is found in the Church that Christ established, which is the Catholic Church .

I am frustrated by "myths" of all sects of Christianity. There are baloney stories in the protestant circles and there are baloney stories in the Catholic circles.

OK I’m with you on this.

I am in no way attacking anyones interpretation of the Bible. Rather, I am attacking their belief in “miracles” which were easy to perpetrate on people in a “Christian” culture that were NOT EVEN ALLOWED to read the Bible – backwards and uneducated at best.

So do you believe in miracles or not? And also, your statement that Christians were not allowed to read the bible is a myth.

But now these should be exposed as the cheap parlor tricks that they are.

Not all things reported as miracles are accepted by the Catholic Church. I believe the Church to be the pillar of truth, therefore if they certify something as a miracle, I believe it is true. Since you don’t share this view, it is understandable that you are skeptical.

I once read a book by Hal Lindsey called “A walk through the holy land.”

Enough said, I agree he is a charlatan.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Agreed. It also requires faith.

66 posted on 09/25/2002 8:27:36 AM PDT by pegleg
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