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To: HDMZ
I just realised that there is a big cultural gap between us. You see, I see all these types of miracles as a cultural phenomenon. That is, they are big in "Catholic" countries where most of the people don't really read the Bible and just sort of blindly believe what they are told. In places where Catholics actually READ THE BIBLE and have a direct relationship with Jesus, this sort of stuff is played down or tolerated, kind of like the crazy uncle in the cellar.

It's pretty big stuff in south and central america and parts of Europe. In most of the circles I hang around, the word of God and a personal relationship with him is more valued than ALL miracle claims. Not that miracles are ignored. I've had three happen to me - REAL MIRACLES. But I couldn't prove them to anybody.

They pretty much increase my faith and personal testimony. No blood in vials, or statue tears, or shrouds of Turin or anything like that.
29 posted on 09/23/2002 3:59:59 PM PDT by RobRoy
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It ain't just Catholics: Miracle of Tsar Martyr Nicholas II
32 posted on 09/23/2002 4:14:04 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: RobRoy
In places where Catholics actually READ THE BIBLE and have a direct relationship with Jesus, this sort of stuff is played down or tolerated, kind of like the crazy uncle in the cellar.

Spiritual Gifts Unity and Variety

1 Cor, xii, 9, 10"...to another faith by the same Spirit...to another mighty deeds;..."

Heb ii, 4. "God added his testimony by signs, wonders, various acts of power, and distribution of the gifts of the Holy Spirit according to his will."

39 posted on 09/23/2002 6:19:21 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: RobRoy
"I just realised that there is a big cultural gap between us. You see, I see all these types of miracles as a cultural phenomenon. That is, they are big in "Catholic" countries where most of the people don't really read the Bible and just sort of blindly believe what they are told. In places where Catholics actually READ THE BIBLE and have a direct relationship with Jesus, this sort of stuff is played down or tolerated, kind of like the crazy uncle in the cellar. It's pretty big stuff in south and central america and parts of Europe."

Yeah, although I find it fascinating that all those "Catholic" places like south and central america where all those ignorant people who don't read the Bible and lack a 'personal relationship with Jesus, and believe in all this 'weird' miracle stuff, are also the same places where children in their mother's womb still have a better than fifty-fifty shot that they won't be killed before their born. Whereas in cultures where people read their Bibles, have their 'personal relationships with Jesus,' and are oh so much more rational tend to slaughter the unborn.

But, then, I'm sure this is just a coincedence.

41 posted on 09/23/2002 6:49:27 PM PDT by AlguyA
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