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Associated Press ... breaking news | September 18, 2002

Posted on 09/18/2002 12:06:01 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer
Is there a live link where we could see the state by state numbers? I am really interested in viewing this.
21 posted on 09/18/2002 5:49:42 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: RnMomof7
Still postsing nonsense and non sequiters, I see.

Did you read in school to learn or did the teacher read it too you??

In fact, my Mama was a first grade teacher. I was not in her class. I did learn to read before I started school. And your point is?

Did your mom ever say to you " If everyone jumps off the bridge are you going to too?"

Yes, she did. And your point is?

If they are wrong don you will have an eternity to discuss why you were

Sorry. I have no idea of what you are talking about.

My post, to which I guess this was a response, was to the point of not being surprised when JW's and LDS'ers show up and lead folks further astray.

In any argument over words, even over Holy Scripture, the best debater will win.

That is the fatal flaw in sola scriptura

22 posted on 09/18/2002 5:53:29 PM PDT by don-o
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To: Salvation
I think it is a no brainer Sal. I was not making a denominational statement although some tried to make it one...

Bible study in church or privately helps us know God and recognize false teachings

23 posted on 09/18/2002 5:53:32 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: don-o
Yeah, but this obviously careless remark/position has been overstated. Luther was exasperated at the fact that James's practical illustration of saving faith had gotten elevated to the level of high doctrine (e.g., Paul's systematic discussion of justification in Romans).

On the other hand, some of Luther's finest sermons are from the Epistle of James. (The RCC never tells its members that.)

24 posted on 09/18/2002 5:53:52 PM PDT by the_doc
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To: don-o
If I misunderstood I apologize...one does not have to be sola scriptura to learn the nature of God through His word ..knowing that helps live a holy life..something I assume we do have agreement on

Don ...the word will win over error . I know that because they stay away from it..

25 posted on 09/18/2002 5:57:05 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Don ...the word will win over error . I know that because they stay away from it..

Your "word" or their "word"?

All God's children got a "word".

26 posted on 09/18/2002 6:02:12 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
THE word..quoted straight from the Book ....no editorial comment..it is the word of God that has the power to convert and save Don...
27 posted on 09/18/2002 6:05:07 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I think it is a no brainer Sal. I was not making a denominational statement although some tried to make it one...

Bible study in church or privately helps us know God and recognize false teachings

I totally agree with you. We may interpret certain scriptures differently, but basically we will both bring people to believe in Jesus Christ as their savior and redeemer.

We completed a class recently for Catholics returning to the church and their first request was to have an ongoing Bible study or faith-sharing class. Then they stopped for the summer, so it is time for us to pick it back up. These posts just served as the impetus for me to do that. Thanks, and God bless.

28 posted on 09/18/2002 6:06:26 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: NYer
About 3.4 million of those were Roman Catholics, an increase of 6.7 percent from the previous census. Jews were the state's second-largest group with 468,000 members, an 8.9 percent increase from 10 years ago.

These increases are outstanding. It makes me wonder where the main (lame) stream media got the information that people had returned to life as normal after they got over their initial impulse to attend church after 9-11-01.

Hnnnnnn.

29 posted on 09/18/2002 6:08:45 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: RnMomof7
I am always trying to encourage private bible study so the word of god is known well enough people do not fall for false doctrine.

And if the conclusions they draw from "private Bible study" are different from the ones you draw, is that considered "false doctrine"?

30 posted on 09/18/2002 6:11:31 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: RnMomof7
Do the missles still have the readings printed in them?

Yes, the missals have gotten larger, because they do have the readings and they have included a large selection of hymns also.

Do most parishes have bible studies now? I know my husbands has a daytime one...

During Lent we had 18 groups with over 300 members and that is for a small parish of about 500 families.

Last year there were two ongoing Bible study/faith-sharing groups. I want to get mine started again, and I think the other lady will start the first of October. It would be wonderful if we could continue the group throughout the year.

Pray!

31 posted on 09/18/2002 6:15:05 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; sandyeggo
Just trying to jog my memory - didn't Luther add the word "alone" to Romans 3:28 and change entirely the meaning of that verse? 7 posted on 9/18/02 5:04 PM Pacific by sandyeggo

Yes

32 posted on 09/18/2002 6:16:03 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: RnMomof7
THE word..quoted straight from the Book ....no editorial comment..it is the word of God that has the power to convert and save Don...

Which "Book"?

All God's children got a book.

Your argument is what the Muslims proclaim.

Just read the (their) book.

33 posted on 09/18/2002 6:34:13 PM PDT by don-o
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To: wai-ming
And if the conclusions they draw from "private Bible study" are different from the ones you draw, is that considered "false doctrine"?

Give that gentleman or lady a ceegar!!!

Only been asked about ten million times on this board.

And as far as I have seen, never answered.

A lot of dancing around the question, but it is a corner out of which the sola scriptura believers cannot get.

34 posted on 09/18/2002 6:39:10 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
Don....you would not know if you are deceived or not...you choose ignorance..do not be surprised if your kids marry a mormon..
35 posted on 09/18/2002 6:41:45 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: NYer
My estimate is that 6% of the 6.7 gain in the RC church in the US is due to immigration (legal and illegal),not true growth, just movement. I just don't want you guys to hurt yourself patting yourselves on the back.
36 posted on 09/18/2002 6:48:07 PM PDT by Iowegian
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To: sandyeggo; the_doc; Salvation

If this is true, I'm prepared to believe that any "faith" which claims to be Faith yet produces no good works, is a dead and false faith -- a "faith" so falsely called.

But I certainly would not imagine up any doctrine which declared,

That would not be Faithful to James in the slightest; it would just be Unfaithful to Paul.

For, "we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law" -- whether or not you use the word "alone", the matter of import is that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

"Faith alone Saves; and the Faith which Saves is never alone."

37 posted on 09/18/2002 6:48:08 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: don-o
Book 'em, Don-o!
38 posted on 09/18/2002 7:06:53 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: RnMomof7
Don....you would not know if you are deceived or not...you choose ignorance..do not be surprised if your kids marry a mormon..

How would I know if I were deceived?

The Mormons (capital "M" for respect) tell you to read their stuff and trust your feelings.

What do you have that differs from that, save for what you have folks to read?

And I will thank you to leave my sons out of the argument. They will do fine.

39 posted on 09/18/2002 7:08:03 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
How would I know if I were deceived?

I don't..but neither do you...you have chosen to take what others say on faith

I have no argument really . I have no interest in what you believe or where ya end up don...you will have to stand to give account for yourself someday...saying that "they told me" will not cut it

40 posted on 09/18/2002 7:16:38 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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