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FINALLY, someone else articulates what I've been feeling for many weeks. I believe this is an important call to prayer. If you find the shoe doesn't fit you, please ignore it. It is a call for those with ears and a heart to hear it.

IF you doubt prayer has much impact on such world wide events, then you may be unaware of the MANY great moves of God based on prayerful intercession throughout the great wars of history. Many of the supernatural aspects of Israel's 6 day war remain not widely published.

1 posted on 09/16/2002 10:45:35 AM PDT by Quix
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To: Quix
I personally am not sure HOW un-inevitable war with Iraq is depending on adequate intercession. I believe there is a fair amount of wiggle room, so to speak. I believe Russian etc. signs are that the limbo could drag out for years--especially if Hussain does his usual shucking and jiving dance with inspectors in-country.

But I DO believe WWIII is delayablel-probably into the 2006 time frame referenced in some of the Bible Codes.

So, I guess I believe there's two nodes or areas of concern, impact that intercession could be brought to bear on--Saddam and that whole ball of wax--and then WWIII and the Chinese/Russians/North Koreans/Cubans and Mexicans as many have seen in dozens and dozens of dreams and visions.

As well, I believe the reason so many terrorist cells etc. have been being busted is that there has been a LOT of focused intercession TO THAT END--FOR MANY MONTHS.

Anyway--my 2 cents worth.
2 posted on 09/16/2002 11:47:38 AM PDT by Quix
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Any input????
7 posted on 09/16/2002 1:39:27 PM PDT by sola gracia
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To: Quix; sola gracia
"WAR IS NOT INEVITABLE. PRAY IN TONGUES."

I'll quote the inimitable Christian lyricist Steve Taylor:

If the Bible doesn't back it, then it seems quite clear--
Perhaps it was the Devil who whispered in your ear!
First of all, the Acts 2:4 passage you quote is out of context. It in no way implies that the Holy Spirit "will continue to pray in tongues through us." It was referring to a specific incident when God's Holy Spirit descended upon His people. By the way, the "tongues" spoken of in Acts were actual languages of the time. If you read on, you find that while the disciples were speaking, the Holy Spirit acted as a translator and all present heard the words of the disciples in his own language. This, of course, was all part of the supernatural event of Pentecost. "Tongues" is never referred to in Scripture as some secret, special language that is only known to the one uttering the words. While speaking in tongues was addressed in the New Testament, Paul tells us, "He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself" (1 Cor. 14:4). He goes on to say in the following verses that the church receives edification only when the tongue the speaker is using is interpreted.

Secondly, regardless of how or why we pray, we do not have the power to change God's will. For example, someone earnestly praying for the healing of a loved one suffering from cancer does not in and of itself ensure that recovery is inevitable. I have known people who actually believe that if you pray for healing and it wasn't granted, you didn't pray hard enough, long enough, or faithfully enough. That is a dangerous position to take. We should never operate under the assumption that our prayers can somehow magically alter God's plan for us. It is true that prayer is a powerful weapon in the arsenal of the believer, but prayer should always be in accordance with His will. Prayer is a form of communion with our Heavenly Father and it is through prayer and study of His word that we are able to become aligned with His will for our lives.

17 posted on 09/16/2002 2:45:51 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: Quix
I read the article.

I noticed there is a lot of emphasis on "What WE can do", and not enough on God's divine sovereignty.

Events will play out exactly as they are written in God's eternal plan, whether we "pray in tongues" or not.

As Christians our hope should not be in changing this present evil world, our hope should rest in the world to come. We should be looking to Jesus Christ and praying "Thy will, not ours be done!"




45 posted on 09/16/2002 4:17:44 PM PDT by zadok
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To: Quix
Prayer is great, but what's this self-interpreting bit? Somebody needs to do a little Basic Bible reading alongside that prayer and "interpretation."
114 posted on 09/16/2002 9:12:52 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: Quix
Bump - for a lurk.
150 posted on 09/17/2002 5:01:47 PM PDT by don-o
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To: Quix
Your post about a call to prayer sounds like a challenge. I wonder how may freepers would be willing to take up this specific challenge "in tongues," or prayer In the Spirit, and what would be the result? More than just discussion, could this have an impact on world events?
188 posted on 09/18/2002 5:53:13 AM PDT by Dusty Rose
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