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To: RnMomof7; zadok; MarMema
You can "blow off" my question as silly Hank...,p> That was not my aim. Just trying to lighten things up a bit.

IF the fall had no spiritual impact on future generations surely ONE man could have chosen NEVER to sin.

Well, actually one did? One with a nature exactly like all other men?

I have already adequately answered this. Your argument is not logically correct, and defies experience.

I think you did not read my posts carefully, so I will repeat what I formally said. You will notice, if you do read it carefully, I never said the fall had no affect on the future, or that human nature was not changed. I only deny that sin can be ascribed to nature. Its an absurdity. Sin is transgression of the law, period.

Adam and Eve, and all the angels were created sinless, and Adam and Eve, and probably 1/3 of the angels sinned.

After the fall, man became "physcially" depraved, mortal, and subject to disease and easily inflamed desires in a world also under the curse. If man could not keep from sinning when in perfect health, in paradise, walking daily with God, why do you suppose he would be able to keep from sinning in the imperfect state he now finds himself in. Your assumption is completely baseless.

(Remember, temptation is not sin. After the fall, temptation became much greater than before. and Jesus sufferred that same temptation, proving that a man could resist it if he chose to. However, Jesus is the only man who ever did resist it, and the only one that ever will choose to do so.)

Hank

94 posted on 09/16/2002 1:14:00 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief
Well, actually one did? One with a nature exactly like all other men?

Did he have a nature JUST like all other men? I assume then you do not believe he had a divine nature..perhaps like you the product of sexual intercourse between mary and....????

After all if he is EXACTLY like YOU He did not a divine nature..you too COULD have lived sinless had YOU chosen to right?

Let me ask you this Hank...IF every man has a choice not to sin...who other than Jesus Christ has lived the law perfectly?..If eveyman has the choice not to sin and was not spiritually corrupt looking just like his father adam..why did God need to make a plan for salvation before the foundation of the earth? Every man had EXACTLY the same opportunity to live perfectly that Adam did...no need for a savior to make righteousness possible is there? Everyman is his own potential savior...

So hank I am still waiting for that one man in 2000 that has kept the law perfectly...surely one man must have been able to maintain his inborn righteousness..

95 posted on 09/16/2002 1:28:09 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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