[xzins]

Effective....???? LOL!!

Guess you all still want to slice Rev 20 out of the bible like Woody suggested! That, m'lad, is hardly effective.

Premillennialism is irrefutable because of Rev 5, Rev 20, 1 Co 15. All you offer in response is "death in the new heavens and new earth" AND a "symbolic" rather than actual return of Jesus Christ.

[theAmbassador]

It is only irrefutable if you ignore every Biblical argument against it. I have 3 currently that you have completely ignored. #2642, 2646, 2694.

BTW, considering this so called "slice Rev 20 out of the bible"--you might want to consider that the 1000 years cruical to Premillennialism is a single witness. I was under the impression that 2 or 3 witnesses were needed to establish every word. Go figure my suprise that I just can't seem to find this all important 1000 years anywhere else in the Bible.