irishtenor wrote:They are the same ones that are in chapter 5 (I think, don't have my Bible with me) who are saying "How long, Oh Lord,..."
Thanks for writing back irishtenor, and this is the verses you wanted.
Rev 6:9 And when he broke open the fifth seal, I saw an altar, and underneath it all the souls of those who had been martyred for preaching the Word of God and for being faithful in their witnessing.
Rev 6:10 They called loudly to the Lord and said, "O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long will it be before you judge the people of the earth for what they've done to us? When will you avenge our blood against those living on the earth?"
Rev 6:11 White robes were given to each of them, and they were told to rest a little longer until their other brothers, fellow servants of Jesus, had been martyred on the earth and joined them.
I was hoping folks could see that the ones sitting on the thrones judging was the 24 Elders who represent the "church" and "the OT saints". Which means we're already in Heaven. As John's visions begins he sees God's throne and then the 24 Elders.
Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this."
Rev 4:2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it.
Rev 4:3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and carnelian. A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne.
Rev 4:4
Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads.
Which supports the Premillennialism view.
Mat 19:28 And Jesus replied, "When I, the Messiah, shall sit upon my glorious throne in the Kingdom, you my disciples shall certainly sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.