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To: xzins; CCWoody; Matchett-PI; the_doc
"Jean, do you think that Justin gave that title to that chapter? Or do you think it was given later? "

There is no reason why I would ~assume~ either way. In otherwords, "presuming" this title was added by others. You could say, then, that those who do not lack reading comprehension skills as you have frequently shown you lack, see this chapter ~NOT~ as Justin suggesting that "many" don't agree with his "brand of premillennialism" but with "premillennialism" in general.

But, I'm sure I can find a hard copy interlinear (as is the case with the Eusebius book I have) which would help us out. -that is if you find a need to parse things that much!

"He is answering about the people being gathered together by Christ in a rebuilt Jerusalem. He goes ON TO TALK ABOUT THE 1000 YEAR REIGN. "

Isn't that all part of premillennialism? Can premillennialism exist without Jerusalem being rebuilt???

Only a deceivious need to 'parse' this chapter would result in the reading you claim.

"MOREOVER, I pointed out to you that some who are called Christians, but are godless, impious heretics, teach doctrines that are in every way blasphemous, atheistical, and foolish....For I choose to follow not men or men's doctrines, but God and the doctrines [delivered] by Him. FOR IF YOU HAVE FALLEN IN WITH SOME WHO ARE CALLED CHRISTIANS, BUT WHO DO NOT ADMIT THIS [TRUTH], and venture to blaspheme the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob; who say there is no resurrection of the dead, and that their souls, when they die, are taken to heaven; do not imagine that they are Christians....BUT I AND OTHERS, WHO ARE RIGHT-MINDED CHRISTIANS ON ALL POINTS, ARE ASSURED THAT THERE WILL BE A RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, AND A THOUSAND YEARS IN JERUSALEM, WHICH WILL THEN BE BUILT, ADORNED, AND ENLARGED, [AS] THE PROPHETS EZEKIEL AND ISAIAH AND OTHERS DECLARE. "

Of course, with your low reading comprehension, I ~EXPECTED~ you to emphasize this. Notice he defines these 'non' Christians as those who reject the resurrection of the body. These Justin declares to be outside of the orthodox faith is in complete contrast to the previous staments of Justin of the "many" who disagree with premillennialism: "but, on the other hand, I signified to you that many who belong to the ~pure~ and ~pious~ faith, and are true Christians, think otherwise"

Those who Martyr calls heretics are those who "who say there is no resurrection of the dead, and that their souls, when they die, are taken to heaven" (i.e. Gnostics). This is a far different group than the "many" who are "pure" and "pious" who disagree with premillennialism.

Reading comprehension, xzins -go for it!

Jean

1,792 posted on 09/25/2002 1:12:44 PM PDT by Jean Chauvin
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To: Jean Chauvin
Why do you attack me when you post? I understand sarcasm, but why demean me?
1,794 posted on 09/25/2002 1:28:38 PM PDT by xzins
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