[George W. Bush]

I believe one's eschatological views are very important. What one believe's about the "end" affects how one lives today.

I'd like to hear some concrete examples of this. We can leave aside the obvious and constant failures of Millerites (Seventh Day Adventists). They are not truly representative of premills generally. I don't think we have any date-setters among the premills here on this thread so comparison with the errors of Millerism could hardly be said to apply.

Precisely how do you envision that a person's daily walk with God can affected by their particular brand of millennarian thinking? If you are amillennial, does that give you an immunity to certain types of deception? Can it make you complacent? If RnMom (or any of us) is premillennial to any degree, is that necessarily a weakness and a snare?

For the teacher is not to quarrel but to be gentle and patient in their teaching.

A sound reminder. And fairly easy advice to take from someone who actually practices it consistently here at FR.

FRegards.

[sola gracia]

Precisely how do you envision that a person's daily walk with God can affected by their particular brand of millennarian thinking? If you are amillennial, does that give you an immunity to certain types of deception? Can it make you complacent? If RnMom (or any of us) is premillennial to any degree, is that necessarily a weakness and a snare?

Good and fair response. Your eschatological view does not make you immune from complacency. Anyone, with any view can become complacent. Also a PreMil view doesn't make anyone weak. (although it may show some hermeneutical weakness - e.g. Israel/church distinction)

However, complacency and weakness can very much be seen from a dispensational premillenial view. This view seemed to go hand-in-hand with the result of Finney's introduciton of the invitational system. Finney believed that one should preach to the will of man for decision. He called men to accept Jesus as Savior. Later, he said, we will disciple them and bring them a submission to His Lordship. Well, as you can imagine, the churches began to fill up with "believers" that had only been introduced to the saving power of Christ but not to obedience and discipleship.

Along comes dispensational teaching the the Christian will not have to go through "tribulation." So what developed over the years were individuals who had no need to submit themselves to Chirst in all of His offices. Looking to headlines in the papers about the latest in the middle east substituted for searching the Scriptures daily. Rather than hearing good expositional sermons that exalted Chirst they heaped to themselves teacher/preachers who excited them about the latest "end times" news.

Yes, one's eschatological views does affect they way they live. My statement in no way was aimed at RN or anyone else for that matter. IMHO, Rn has displayed tremendous Christian affection and decorum on this board. (of course, except for the occassional "tongue-in-cheek" posting. And the my referance to some of her "Satan bound" posts)

I hope I have explained myself well enough. Jean Chauvin & Matchett-PI please take me off of you BUMP list for this thread, I think I've read enough. Thanks.