[nate4one]

Neither!

Then it appears our hope is the same, however as far as the New Jerusalem, we also agree, you just cannot Biblically show me how consistantly because it is impossible to have the New Jerusalem NOW, unless Christ has returned and the resurrection of those in Hades has happened. (Rev 20)

[CCWoody]

Then it appears our hope is the same, however as far as the New Jerusalem, we also agree, you just cannot Biblically show me how consistantly because it is impossible to have the New Jerusalem NOW, unless Christ has returned and the resurrection of those in Hades has happened. (Rev 20)

No, our hope is not the same, just like I said in the beginning.