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To: american colleen
Oh, good!

One thing I've been mulling over though is that the fact we are all guests here and there is no "leader" means that no one individual can impose an agenda on the rest of the Catholic Caucus. While personal websites and even larger internet apostolates can succumb to one individual's agenda or myopia or cult of personality, that simply cannot happen here.

The Catholic Caucus therefore has ended up being a challenge to all to learn, and embrace, and spread robust orthodoxy.

The only measuring stick against which any of us measure up is that of Roman Catholic orthodoxy, and adherence to the Teachings of the Pope and the Magisterium with him.

Yes, it leaves us rudderless to a certain degree but that also imposes a certain discipline of its own, and given the knowledge, zeal, and effort of most of the Catholic Caucus, peer pressure here forges ahead towards orthodoxy.

Besides, the most outspoken posters are usually Type A personalities in the first place, all "leaders' in their own right.

If there were a crowned "leader" there would also eventually be mutinies.

I like the way FR exists at present in relation to the Catholic Caucus. The problem lies in interrelations here.

147 posted on 09/11/2002 6:52:17 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
I agree with everything you posted.

But I don't mean an appointed leader at all. There always just seemed to be one poster (at least I think so, but this is just my perception) who seemed to post common sense orthodox posts without causing any great ruckus. And most of the CC seemed to gravitate to that person and what follwed was mostly discussion, some debate, not much controversy. History_matters was like that. Father_Elijah was, too. Siobhan as well, but off and on since she has always been off and on FR. Oddly, I think the scandal also united us for a while. I hope that the unity hasn't faded because we are letting the scandal fall aside a bit... all the work is ahead of us and not behind us. In my own case, I've gotten the courage to say things and act on things (outside of FR, I mean) because of the CC - I know I am not alone here in orthodoxville. Like last week, I had a question on Tabernacle placement (and a couple of other things) that is very pertinent for me at the moment. All of you came to my aid with either documentation or stories of how to deal with it.

152 posted on 09/11/2002 7:08:17 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: Polycarp; dansangel; All

You are right in saying that there is no leader here in the Catholic Caucus, but there are a few referee's that come in and call foul... This is a wonderful place to learn and to teach to speak and listen but even the teachers must listen once and a while. They need to listen to those that are looking for answers to questions that most people can't answer, that's why there here. We as group must help, not attack from our own personal view. None of us come even close to being right about everything the Catholic Church teaches. We must help each other it's the only way that the remnant will survive. I have always been told that when we tell someone that we are Catholic and we speak about the Church we should reflect Christ to those people. None of us can really do that but we need to try. God Bless all of you....

200 posted on 09/12/2002 6:23:13 AM PDT by .45MAN
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