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To: NYer
"If Roger Cardinal Mahony could, he would reinstate this practice!! He needs every dime possible to keep his palatial cathedral up and running."

LOL! And it would be filled to the brim with democrats. You think Hillary and Bill were bad renting out the Lincoln bedroom, imagine what they could do with this gem! Talk about influence peddling. Of course, while laughable, it is exactly that kind of abuse that occurred when a corrupt church was in effect married to a corrupt state and the very essence that sparked the protestant Reformation. This was also the basis for the founding fathers adamant opposition to the establishment of a state church.

68 posted on 09/06/2002 2:07:23 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
Of course, while laughable, it is exactly that kind of abuse that occurred when a corrupt church was in effect married to a corrupt state and the very essence that sparked the protestant Reformation. This was also the basis for the founding fathers adamant opposition to the establishment of a state church.

Did you learn your history from looking at the www.theonion.com website or from reading "Mad" magazine???

70 posted on 09/06/2002 2:47:36 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: sweetliberty
You are right. I was rude by jumping in the thread, aiming, firing and leaving without explaining myself. I'm sorry. I also go from the last message to the first message (read them backwards, not sure why) and upon reading up, I found your posts pleasant and knowledgeable.

I do, however, take umbrage at your calling the Catholic Church a "corrupt church" - I do not agree. Certainly some of the men within Her were corrupt, that has been true since Judas. However, the Truth was the same in 33 AD, 1533 AD and now.

The founding fathers (assuming you mean the founding fathers of the USA), merely stressed "freedom of religion" for everyone, regardless of creed therefore, no established state church. They were still mindful of how our country was founded. And who was persecuting the Pilgrims? Not the Catholic Church.

Again, I apologize. I took the latter part of your post as a gratuitous slap at the Catholic Church.

73 posted on 09/06/2002 5:05:08 PM PDT by american colleen
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