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To: Bud McDuell; ultima ratio; sitetest
Therefore, let them who in grave peril are ranged against the Church seriously bear in mind that after "Rome has spoken" they cannot be excused even by reasons of good faith. Certainly, their bond and duty of obedience toward the Church is much graver than that of those who as yet are related to the Church "only by an unconscious desire." Let them realize that they are children of the Church, lovingly nourished by her with the milk of doctrine and the sacraments, and hence, having heard the clear voice of their Mother, they cannot be excused from culpable ignorance, and therefore to them apply without any restriction that principle: submission to the Catholic Church and to the Sovereign Pontiff is required as necessary for salvation.

<>I thought you'd appreciate this warning from the First Ottaviani intervention.

Sitetest is correct. It was a comparison and everyone reading it understood it to be a comparison. You two reveal what is in your hearts when you compare the normative mass to a black mass.

What would be your reaction to this statement; "Ultima and Bud oppose the normative mass just as Hitler opposed the normative mass when he was alive."<>

145 posted on 09/03/2002 9:28:20 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
Dear Catholicguy,

"What would be your reaction to this statement; 'Ultima and Bud oppose the normative mass just as Hitler opposed the normative mass when he was alive.'"

Wow, that was succinct.

Could you give me lessons in that?

sitetest
146 posted on 09/03/2002 9:34:23 AM PDT by sitetest
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