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To: Goldhammer
Do you know of any annulments granted by SSPX? I know they deny the validity of some annulments granted by AmChurch, but I have yet to hear of an annulment being granted per se by SSPX. Perhaps you can enlighten us. It is you who are predictable, by the way. I notice you do not cite the well-reasoned arguments for the existence of the tribunal given on SSPX.org. There were four documents listed explaining the issue which very clearly present the SSPX rationale. The tribunal was necessary to deal with the annulment crisis brought on by AmChurch, not to manufacture annulments the way Novus Ordonians do.
108 posted on 09/01/2002 7:48:32 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
Dear ultima ratio,

Notwithstanding your further falsehoods, here is what the SSPX pretends to do:

"The Society's marriage annulment tribunal is thus supplied with jurisdiction in each particular case, both to make a statement of moral certitude for the good of souls (i.e., there never was a marriage in the first place), and to give a decree stating this fact."

And that is what a real Catholic marriage tribunal does: it gives a decree recognizing the nullity of the marriage. That is why it is most properly called a "decree of nullity" rather than the more colloquial "annulment".

Ironically, it is the SSPX organization itself that colloquially refers to its own tribunal as a "marriage annulment tribunal". LOL.

You are proven once again to be telling falsehoods. This one is so clearly false, it makes it difficult to believe that you are not intentionally lying.

But let the record be clear, the SSPX organization, headed by the excommunicated Mr. Fellay and other excommunicated people, no longer in communion with the Holy Catholic Church led by Christ's chosen Vicar on earth, Pope John Paul II, invalidy, illicitly, without any jurisdiction at all, without any moral justification at all, in defiance of Catholic faith and law, with full culpability for its acts, "...makes a statement of moral certitude for the good of souls (i.e., there never was a marriage in the first place), and to give a decree stating this fact" of the marriage's nullity.

sitetest

111 posted on 09/01/2002 8:36:01 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: ultima ratio; Goldhammer; sitetest
I will supply three links for the story of the sspx and its lies. It is written by a priest ordained by Lefebvre. This will document the lies the sspx tells, especially the lies it tells its own adherents
122 posted on 09/02/2002 4:52:05 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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