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To: Desdemona
I think some of the people on these threads,who look at the criticisms of the New Order mass as dangerous to the Church need to read your gentle but clear description of exactly how lacking so many "services" are in holiness.Our spirits are supposed to soar,our hearts and our minds are to be focused on the heavens,the divine,the supernatural. Most often the homilies (that seem to go hand in hand with innovative masses) are lacking in substantive Catholic teaching.

I have talked to and written to pastors and priests who have abused the mass and they shrug their shoulders and turn away.

For thirty-five years I attended mass every Sunday at least.With the exception of some intermittant relief offered by some priests,who were orthodox,my weekly experience was ennervating. I finally gave it to God and said I will go to mass and honor you every Sunday because I am obedient,but I can't handle it much longer.I did allow myself the latitude of going from parish to parish. I decided that if a bishop,who was enthroned with his fingers crossed behind his back,ordained a priest.who also had their fingers crossed there was a chance that I was not receiving the Body and Blood of Christ.I knew that all of them were not like that so I would go from church to church knowing that at some I would receive.

One last observation,it is no wonder that Catholics no longer believe in the Real Presence,after twisting the Gospels to rule out miracles,after practically having us worship one another,since we seem to be all little jesuses and jesusuettas,then we say "Christ has died,Christ is risen,Christ will come again".Well,if He's not there with us after the consecration,then what am I receiving.

Now for the really good news,there has been a major change gradually creeping in over the past three years. Whereas once I could not expect to find one good Mass unless I went to ten(I tried to go to parishes within 15 minutes of my house)now nine out of ten Masses will be reverent with good sermons.So miracles do happen,I think ours was due to a wonderful,holy strong and intelligent Vocations Director.The diocese still has far too many abusers and potential abusers but it is improving quickly.Thanks Be To God.

105 posted on 09/01/2002 7:24:59 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity
Dear saradippity,

"I think some of the people on these threads,who look at the criticisms of the New Order mass as dangerous to the Church need to read your gentle but clear description of exactly how lacking so many 'services' are in holiness.Our spirits are supposed to soar,our hearts and our minds are to be focused on the heavens,the divine,the supernatural."

Those who criticize the Mass of Pope Paul VI, and the Holy Father, and an Ecumenical Council, and the Holy Catholic Church, from the schismatic pseudo-traditionalist point of view are, indeed, dangerous to souls, precisely because of the difficulties of the past 40 years.

Whether you like it or not, their lies and falsehoods and distortions must be exposed by faithful Catholics, no matter how tedious, difficult, and demoralizing are these efforts.

Giving aid and comfort to the SSPX is giving aid and comfort to the likes of ultima ratio who compares the Mass of Pope Paul VI to a Black Mass.

Anyone who wants to be on that side, help yourselves.

sitetest

110 posted on 09/01/2002 8:34:57 PM PDT by sitetest
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