[bzrd]

I think your real problem is not with good and evil, but with good and evil as objective realities. If good/evil exist as objective realities, then whatever is good or evil, is good or evil despite what you or I have to say about it. Furthermore, if they exist "without", they were of a logical neccessity, pre-existent to, and separate from, humanity.

It all but spells GOD.

It is for this very reason that atheistic thinkers are forced into denying the existence of evil. What is more troubling [and dangerous] is that this is the godless motive behind the indoctrination school-children with values neutral training.

They are on a mission to produce functional atheists.

Brian.

[Hank Kerchief]

It is for this very reason that atheistic thinkers are forced into denying the existence of evil.

You have obviously never read Ayn Rand. No one makes a better case for the cause and existense of evil than Rand, and no one makes a clearer case for the necessity of moral values. Ayn Rand was an Athiest.

Hank