[tpaine]

No, moralites ARE a belief about what is right and wrong. YB
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Absurd statement, easily demonstrated false by our earliest 'ethical' experiences.
IE - A toddler hurts a peer, and is 'hurt' in return, either by the other child, or disciplined by an adult. -- Neither child has attained the 'age of reason' or a sense of right or wrong, yet they both soon learn a "real world ethical lesson".

-- Do harm onto others, and they will do harm onto you.

Thus, -- Moralities DO exist, irregardless of beliefs. They are a product of real world cause & effect.
We need no 'god' to tell us what common sense illustrates.

[yendu bwam]

Do harm onto others, and they will do harm onto you.

Yes, yes, yes, tpaine. Only those things which ultimately cause harm to you are bad. We get the idea. You have the right to whatever morality you wish.