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To: yendu bwam
Christianity is not coercive.

It has tamed down a bit since that Catholic bishop had Joan of Arc burned at the stake, but the rabid thinking behind that coercive event remains in place within many Christians today.

132 posted on 09/03/2002 1:01:42 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: thinktwice
Another ludicrous statement.

Why do you do that? It doesnt prove anything.

So some christians burned some people at the stake.

I suppose I should talk about all of thehorrible things that pagans and athiests did over the centuries. Man is Man and as such is full of failing. It is not a flaw in christianty that Joan of Arc served a political purpose and then had to be disposed of. That is an evil of a man not the evil of a faith. And your contention that only religion drives people to such horrid acts is equally ludicrous.

Hitler was niether and altruist nor was he a religious person. Where does that fit into your equation? You throw out a few examples of mans imperfections and think it indicts religion and proves you point but it doesnt. It doesnt prove anything except that in 1431 France there were corrupt men in the Catholic church who allowed their politics to effect their judgment. The act itself had nothing to do with being a Christian.
138 posted on 09/03/2002 1:44:03 PM PDT by Prysson
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To: thinktwice
Let me add again since I got off point. The burning of Joan of Arc was not coersive christianity. The coersion to proclaim herself as a witch was political. She was representative of a free france and her constant victories over the English made it seem that God was on her side. The attempted coersion was if anything a means of saving her life. Corrupt churchmen detemrined that better she announce herself a sinner and discredit her rather than let the English burn her. In the end she refused to announce she was withc and the church unable to save her had to deliver her to the state...Who burned her. I would wager that the majority of your so called "christian" atrocites over teh ages have similar flavors to them. It is once again the flaw in your reasonsing. It isnt Christians who are evil it is people who are evil. Being a Christian doesnt shelter you from being a bad person and making mistakes. Even horrible ones. that cost people thier lives.

Was it the churches fault that Henry the V used some third aunt five times removed as a flimsy justification for invading France and putting it to the torch. Some would say yes since the Bishop in England gave his blessing to the venture. But it swas the Bishop that led the men over their and it wasnt for Christ that Henry V conquered France. It was for himself and his own power.
139 posted on 09/03/2002 1:54:57 PM PDT by Prysson
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