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Well doc, that is a bit of an attempt to throw me off topic because I have already said that there is too much to cover. I would have to go and read the references for me to give you a list of which doctrine is taught where. My main point is that of the authors. Namely:

The Christian acceptance of the deuterocanonical books was logical because the deuterocanonicals were also included in the Septuagint, the Greek edition of the Old Testament which the apostles used to evangelize the world. Two thirds of the Old Testament quotations in the New are from the Septuagint. Yet the apostles nowhere told their converts to avoid seven books of it. Like the Jews all over the world who used the Septuagint, the early Christians accepted the books they found in it. They knew that the apostles would not mislead them and endanger their souls by putting false scriptures in their hands -- especially without warning them against them.

But the apostles did not merely place the deuterocanonicals in the hands of their converts as part of the Septuagint. They regularly referred to the deuterocanonicals in their writings. For example, Hebrews 11 encourages us to emulate the heroes of the Old Testament and in the Old Testament "Women received their dead by resurrection. Some were tortured, refusing to accept release, that they might rise again to a better life" (Heb. 11:35).

There are a couple of examples of women receiving back their dead by resurrection in the Protestant Old Testament. You can find Elijah raising the son of the widow of Zarepheth in 1 Kings 17, and you can find his successor Elisha raising the son of the Shunammite woman in 2 Kings 4, but one thing you can never find -- anywhere in the Protestant Old Testament, from front to back, from Genesis to Malachi -- is someone being tortured and refusing to accept release for the sake of a better resurrection. If you want to find that, you have to look in the Catholic Old Testament -- in the deuterocanonical books Martin Luther cut out of his Bible.

So if the apostles used the Septuagint, and regularly referred to it, why should we?

Well doc, that is a bit of an attempt to throw me off topic because I have already said that there is too much to cover.

JM I grew up with those books..they are beautiful and insiteful..but are they inspired liturature? I do not believe so . Jesus never quoted them in His teachings..there is no NT teaching on this OT practice.

Steve is correct that the real problem is the book of Machabees is the only place where there can be found any reference to praying for the dead..and purgatory

That is why the church NEEDS those books to support doctrine not found any other place

I have Bibles with the books in my home, but I do not consider them to be the innerrent word of God. I can read and enjoy them the same way I can enjoy books by Yancy or Max Luccadio, or the writings of Luther or Calvin. Something to think about but not ABSOLUTE truth ..Sola scriptura..

***Well doc, that is a bit of an attempt to throw me off topic because I have already said that there is too much to cover. I would have to go and read the references for me to give you a list of which doctrine is taught where.***

First, you asked me for my comment on your post.

I replied to you that the article indicates there are doctrines (PLURAL) that Protestants were trying to avoid. The article only mentioned one issue prayer for the dead-purgatory and one passage consisting of four verses. I question the author's credibility at this key point and accusation. I asked for other examples.

If we are talking about four verses and one topic, fine just say so. If not, at least list the other key Catholic doctrines being avoided and maybe someone can help with the verses. Or list three other doctrines, or four to get the list started.

This is certainly not a moot point or a dodge on my part. The article made a claim that I think may well give the impression that there are many verses that Protestant reject because they disagree with doctrine contained.

Is that true? Or is it this doctrine and these four verses?