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To: Desdemona
I live in the Dayton area. I know personally one of the AF researchers that examined the Shroud in the late 70's. I have yet to meet a Catholic around here that does not believe in the Shroud's authenticity. I admit this is anecdotal but it is pretty overwhelming. Is your info scientific or anecdotal?

Godspeed, The Dilg

26 posted on 08/03/2002 8:18:00 PM PDT by thedilg
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To: thedilg
That would be...scientific. Please see above post.
28 posted on 08/03/2002 8:20:58 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae
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To: thedilg; NYer
Maybe I should clarify someting - I believe the shroud is authentic.

I always have. Even as a kid. Since then, I've worked with archival artifacts (in a past life) and 2000 year old pieces of cloth just don't look like that. And yes, the fire screwed up the carbon-14 dating. I have no doubt of that.

Too many things point to authenticity, on top of my belief that authentic things generally survive. Supposedly the crown of thorns is in Paris. The French stole it at some point. (Don't let them kid you: they're only athiests because it's fashionable)

And then, I also believe strongly that a higher power watches and intervenes. True story: a sister of a friend lives in San Francisco had two bookcases of breakable figurines. In the earthquake in 1989, the really valuable ones, antique Hummels, were in one bookcase which fell over and every one was destroyed. It wasn't a life. On the other, everything fell off of it except the statue of Mother Duchesne, which didn't move.

A fire that can melt silver is hot enough to get wood and other natural fibers to spontaneously combust. There's no way anyone can convince me the shroud isn't authentic.
34 posted on 08/04/2002 5:51:41 AM PDT by Desdemona
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