[Right_Wing_Mole_In_Seattle]

As is the concept of passing on teachings by oral tradition

Scripture never says that oral tradition cannot be compromised, in fact Paul gives examples. How do we then no what is real? We go back to scripture.

i.e., the doctrine of sola scriptura is itself not scriptural.

Do you think God would agree with you saying that His Word should not be the standard?

- worship Mary or idolatrous icons,
Neither do we. If you say we do, you are either lying or ignorant or perhaps a combination of the two.

You can deny it ALL YOU WANT, but the fact is if I acted toward a tree the way you act toward Mary, you would call me a pagan.

You appear unable to distinguish your interpretation of scripture from scripture itself. And you're the one who claims to believe in sola scriptura!

You must see the circular argument here. Anyone can say this to anyone else. We can always say "that isn't what scripture says, it's just your interpretation of it!" The Mormons tell me this all the time. You "heal" this cognitive dissonance by setting up your "oral tradition" as your guide. The problem is, now your oral tradition has become the standard by which you judge scripture instead of using God's Word as you're guide. Even a short overview of church history will show you that oral tradition has changed. The greatest argument against the Catholic Church's claim of infallibilty is to see how that doctrine has changed over time.

[Desdemona]

"You can deny it ALL YOU WANT, but the fact is if I acted toward a tree the way you act toward Mary, you would call me a pagan."

Before I go spend time with Our Lady, I want to know...how DO we act toward Mary?

Oh, and what sacraments are not biblical?

[SoothingDave]

Do you think God would agree with you saying that His Word should not be the standard?

Do you think Catholics think they deliberately choose things that God disagrees with? Give us an iota of respect, all right?

(BTW, God's Word is Jesus. Scripture, on the other hand, is materially sufficient, but not formally sufficient.)

SD

[Polycarp]

but the fact is if I acted toward a tree the way you act toward Mary, you would call me a pagan.

LOL! Think about what you said here for a moment.

I'll rephrase it so you comprehend my point:

"the fact is if I acted toward a tree the way you act toward JESUS, you would call me a pagan"

Of course I would. What's yer point?

Logic and reasoning ain't your strong point.

[RobbyS]

You take a lot upon your self in saying that the way that Catholics ACT toward Mary is presumptuous. Have you considered that your taking offense at what you see is nothing more than
a matter of personal taste? I have read an account of how an Anglican priest was totally put off by witnessing the Stations of the Cross in Naples. It did not seem to him at all Christian' yet it focuses on the passion of Jesus. I must confess that I am 'put off' by pentacostal "talking in tongues" (by Protestant or Catholic). Am I justified in saying that such enthusiastic displays are really diabolical possession? Or do I investigate further and try to determine the truth. But if you are simply someone who refuses to accept the simple statement of Catholics that, "No, we do not believe that Mary is God," then I must say that it is pointless to argue with you. For to us, "God" means the god of Abraham, the Triune God, and Mary is simply a creature, however glorious.