[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

No problem. I will be happy to debate this further with you, who I consider to be a fellow Christian brother of good will.

Thanks. I appreciate your indulgence, it is an argumentational charity on your part.

Just post what you think is your Magisterium of the First Century Fathers trump card and quit the bombastic BS, OP. And no, I will not grant you any of you biased and personl/calvinistic interpretations presuppositions. Post your point, then we'll proceed.

For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION." So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH." So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. ~~ Magisterial Epistle of the Apostle Saint Paul to the Romans, chapter 9 verses 15-18

On the basis of the Magisterial Epistle of the Apostle Saint Paul to the Romans, I hereby submit that any Salvific Theology which in any way conditions Salvific Election upon the will of Man is in direct contradiction to the Magisterium of the First Century Fathers.

Election is in no way whatsoever dependent or conditioned upon the Will of Man. Romans 9:16. The First Century Magisterium is explicit, defined, and infallible.

Ball is in your court.

best, OP