[Polycarp]

Why don't you just pick up the bible and trust God to teach you instead of man.

That's what got us the thousands of different and infighting protestant denominations, plus scripture itself says we need guides in interpreting it, and sola scriptura ain't scriptural.

Any other questions?

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

plus scripture itself says we need guides in interpreting it, and sola scriptura ain't scriptural.

LOL, I am debating on another thread at the same time, and someone just said just about the same thing.

Yes I do have another question, the one I asked him. Can you please give me scripture refernces for this. Thanks.

Becky

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

That's what got us the thousands of different and infighting protestant denominations, plus scripture itself says we need guides in interpreting it, and sola scriptura ain't scriptural. Any other questions?

Okay, here's a question:

Assuming that the Truth is somewhere within Rome, which soteriological position is Biblically correct, that of the predestinarian Augustinian Catholics or that of the free-will Molinist Catholics?

They are certainly different, they are certainly infighting, and given the fact that they have respective nomenclatures for their positions, they are certainly denominated from eachother theologically.

The fact that there are "thousands of different and infighting protestant denominations" is not really a valid argument. The state of the Church is this:

• There are thousands of different and infighting Protestant denominations whose only real "communion" is that they have all rejected the particular claims of "universality" advanced by the Roman Bishop; and...
• There are thousands of different and infighting Roman denominations whose only real "communion" is that they have all accepted (or at least pay lip-service to) the particular claims of "universality" advanced by the Roman Bishop.

None of which answers the prima facie question of the legitimacy of Rome's claims at all. The existence of "infighting" among Protestants is hardly a compelling argument when the Bishop of Rome has plenty of his own to deal with.