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To: aimhigh
You'll have to provide links to support your assertion. Here is an excerpt from a noted Historian Anne W. Carroll on the Inquisition:

THE INQUISITION

One other task within Spain faced Isabel. During the years of turmoil, the Church had become weak and corrupt. Isabel was a fervent Catholic, putting the cause of Christ first in all she did. Furthermore, she knew that Spain's unity as a nation depended upon a strong Church — Spain might as well not exist if it were not Catholic through and through. She set about reforming the Church, raising the educational and moral standards of the clergy. Many abuses were halted, including the practice of selling indulgences, which would cause much grief in the rest of Europe.

One of the most serious problems the Church faced was the number of Jews and Moors who had been baptized Catholics and risen to high positions in the government and the Church without really believing in Christian doctrine. These false Conversos and Moriscos (converted Jews and Moors) were a threat to the Church and to Spain, and a way had to be found of determining who was a true Christian and loyal Spaniard and who was a traitor. Isabel knew that not all the Conversos and Moriscos were enemies — her own confessor was a Converso as was the husband of her best friend. But to protect the innocent, the guilty had to be found.

The method Isabel chose was the Inquisition: a court which would examine evidence and judge whether a person was a faithful Christian or an enemy of Church and country. At the beginning of the Inquisition, there were many abuses — some innocent people suffered and torture was used frequently. At this point the Pope stepped in and appointed new Inquisitors, with the Grand Inquisitor (head of the Inquisition) being a Dominican monk named Tomas de Torquemada. Torquemada reformed the procedure of the Inquisition to ensure that justice would he done. He made its procedures more lenient and improved conditions in the prisons. He personally examined appeals from the accused and gave money to help the families of those on trial.

The actions of the Inquisitors are often criticized, usually as a means of attacking Spain by those who resent the strong Catholic character of the country. One criticism is that the Inquisition used torture. It did, though less so under Torquemada than before him. Torture is wrong, and the Church has since condemned any use of torture. But at the time, all governments routinely used torture as a means of extracting confessions. Though the fact that a sin is routinely committed does not justify it, the Inquisitors were most probably acting in good faith, and they should not be singled out as unusually evil.

A second attack is that the Inquisition's judgments led to the execution of the guilty. People in modern times consider it wrong to execute people for not truly believing in the religion they professed, but that is not in fact why they were executed. Those found guilty were traitors to the state and to the Church, and treason has almost always been recognized as a crime justifying capital punishment. Furthermore, those found guilty were always given a chance to repent. Only if they refused to repent or if they relapsed into their crimes after promising repentance were they executed. Finally, only 2,000 were executed, a small percentage of the 100,000 put on trial.

A final charge is that the method of execution, burning at the stake, was unusually barbaric. But the 16th century was a brutal time. In England capital punishment consisted of being hanged, cut down while still alive, disembowelled, and then cut into four pieces (hanged, drawn and quartered); in France, it was to be boiled alive. Again, Spain should not be singled out for condemnation.

The Inquisition, in fact, though not perfect, was a more just court than most. Often, people charged with regular crimes would pretend to be heretics so that they could be transferred to the custody of the Inquisition, whose prisoners were better treated.

Looking at the Inquisition historically, we see that it avoided more deaths than it caused. Because Spain was united religiously as well as politically, it did not suffer the religious wars which came when Protestantism began in other countries. Furthermore, a few years later other parts of Europe went through a witchcraft hysteria, when many people were executed as witches on only the flimsiest of evidence, or no evidence at all (30,000 in England, 100,000 in Germany). In Spain, the Inquisition investigated charges of witchcraft and found them baseless, thus saving many innocent people from death.

All the efforts of Ferdinand and lsabel — ending civil war, restoring order and justice, completing the Reconquista, reforming the Church — brought peace and prosperity to Spain. The latter years of their reign and the years immediately following are known as Spain's Golden Age, when art, literature, culture and science reached a high point. During the 16th century, Spain was the intellectual capital of the world, with scholars coming from all over Europe to study there.

Out of Spain's optimism, joy and excitement came the explorations and discoveries which were to open up our own hemisphere and bring about the settlement of a whole new world.

13 posted on 07/27/2002 7:52:47 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
The English-speaking world is loathe to acknpwledge their debt to Spain for saving Europe from the Turk. Bernard Lewis, the noted scholar on Islam, does did mention Lepanto in a recent book. It is as though four hundred years from now, a historian would fail to mention Churchill and the Battle of Britain. Only in retrospect does it seem that the Turks were not a mortal danger to Christendom. It is hard to believe that modern science itself could have arisen in a Europe dominated by Islam, even in its relatively benign Turkish form.
15 posted on 07/27/2002 8:13:49 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: JMJ333
Interesting post. St. Ignatius was subject to the Inquisition at various points in his life, as were many of his early followers, some for the suspicion that they were conversos. The inquisition appears to have had a broad brush.
18 posted on 07/27/2002 8:30:44 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: JMJ333
"Catholicism is naturally the religion of high civilization, of art, learning, and beauty, and of understanding that everything’s not in the Bible and that the classical world had virtues worth preserving and building on. St. Augustine recognized that pagan Rome had great virtues. Dante’s guide in the Divine Comedy is the pagan poet Virgil. Aquinas built on Aristotle. The Church incorporates everything. It truly is universal, and that is one of its great glories."

Yes!!!! Thank the Lord too! And fie on Puritans who are afraid of culture, philosophy, art (including STATUES) and anything remotely "pagan." What did Chesterton say? The Catholic Church is like a jug of wine, a good steak a fine cigar. Something like that. I could never be a Protestant. Not to offend, really. It is NOT the main reason I could not be one, but I just could never be a Protestant because it's too plain!! Not that Protestants cannot become very holy people. But is so plain!!! I like complexity and variety. I like it that the RCC has not been scubbed clean of culture and color and mystery. Maybe it is because I am part Italian that I could never feel at home in a bible belt Protestant Church. As I said, no offense to anyone. I guess it is what you are used to.

23 posted on 07/27/2002 10:16:01 PM PDT by Theresa
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