[narses]

The good Doctor is one of the most brilliant theologians of the XXth Century and his widow is nearly his equal. What do their legitimate, orthodox opinions have to do with your post? They SUPPORT the Magesterium in everything they write or have written, so far as I have ever seen. They simply OPPOSE Modernism, the heresy that has infected the Church so greviously.

[Catholicguy]

What do your statements have to do with my post?

You must have some reason for resurrecting this dead thread.

I think TLM used her to begin with and I haven't changed my mind.

TLm can't get over the fact the Council wa called and they weren't firstconsulted. Boo hoo.

.Before you get side-tracked, again, this little quote is from Newadvent.com "dogmatic Theology." Pastoral theology, which embraces liturgy, homiletics, and catechetics, proceeded from, and bears close relationship to, moral theology; its dependence on dogmatic theology needs, therefore, no further proof.

Most trads try and dodge their Christian duty to obey Vatican Two by saying, endlessly, "it was a Pastoral Council. irrelevant