[patent]

You've read Vatican I? Read it again.

I did before I posted. Provide your quote.

I leave it to you to do the research.

Then you leave yourself a liar. You claimed Protestants wrote the Novus Ordo. You admitted you were trying to research the issue. Now, you can’t admit you can’t prove it, even though its clear you can’t. So you rely on your personal reading of the Mass, claiming you can divine Protestant authorship. You are dishonest.

See post 181, it makes the case for me.

Nothing in 181 proves that a Protestant wrote any part of the Novus Ordo.

[ultima ratio]

I am a liar? Why, because I find your responses mean-spirited and designed to make busy-work? I don't wish to jump through your hoops so you call me a liar. My reference to post 181, if you clicked onto the article, was to call your attention to the fact that the six Protestant advisors were not merely passive observers. If you will sleep better, I will admit they didn't actually write the Novus Ordo--though it is word-for-word indistinguishable in many of its parts from some Protestant worship services and reflects a Protestant, not a Catholic theology--but they sure as heck played a big part in the result. What should be troubling to you is that fact, not a phrase that was written in haste and may have overstated the case a bit--not by much, I hasten to add.