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Dear Catholicguy,

That is quite a link you've got there.

To me the most fascinating part is to learn that the Mass of Pope Paul VI didn't spring fully-formed from the heads of bishops and others during the 1960s, but had been anticipated for over a century by the deliberate actions of the popes.

Also of interest is to see that much of what folks hold onto in the old Mass was actually innovation at the time. The author of the article makes the excellent point that many of the complaints against the Mass of Pope Paul VI are based in sentimentality, not in theology.

It is a very long article, but very much worth the effort.

Thanks for the link.

sitetest

This is utter nonsense. Exactly the opposite is the case. Yes, the modernist liturgists were busy before Vatican II devising ways to sabotage the Mass which stood in the way of their protestantizing attempts. But there was never any approval for this on the part of the popes and the faithful. Even John XXIII would have been horrified by the rejection of the ancient Mass and acceptance of the alien non-Catholic theology that now undergirds the Novus Ordo Mass. This post is revisionist baloney. Quattor Adhinc Annus, which was called by this Pope to settle the question as to the canonical status of the Tridentine Mass, unanimously declared that it had, in fact, never been abrogated. So the Novus Ordo is not only deficient as a Mass, it has also been illicitly foisted on the faithful by modernists with an agenda. That agenda was formulated long ago and was the basis for multiple warnings, from Pius IX to Pius XII. Read Mediator Dei by Pius XII before you post such claptrap.

Here is a quote from Msgr. Klaus Gamber, the preeminent liturgist of the 20th century: "It can be shown that not a single predecessor of Pope Paul VI has ever introduced major changes to the Roman liturgy." He goes on to say the assertion that the pontiff may do so is debatable at the very least. (The Reform of the Roman Liturgy, p. xiii.)

The idea that the Pope can do anything he pleases and act on mere whim was explicitly rejected by Vatican I. "For the Holy Spirit was not promised to the successors of Peter that by His revelation they might disclose new doctrine, but that by His help they might guard the revelation transmitted through the apostles and the deposit of faith, and might faithfully set it forth." (Vatican Council I, canon 3.)