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To: Sock
Dear Sock,

"Let’s see if I understand you? If 'harsh words' are directed a 'groups of people' you will not take issue. Only when they are directed at one offender in particular (especially a friend) does the remark meet with you disapproval?"

What is said abstractly of an amorphous group can become hurtful when aimed at a particular individual. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp.

"Evidently 'friendship' means more to you than it does to me. I understand, sitetest."

Evidently, you read more into my words than was put there by the author.

As to my answer to your original post #59, so I suppose that you are suggesting that it is my obligation to dig up the article for you. Well, I didn't have time last night, nor did I this morning (I responded to you in the brief time I had available to heading out to Mass.).

"Thanks for the entertainment, sitetest."

Thanks for the condescension, Sock. ;-)

If you're interested, I'm sure that you can find the article yourself. It treats directly your errors in how you regard apparitions.

I noticed though that in your last post, you passed right over your apparently uncharitable remarks where you misinterpreted another poster, then, after that poster had made more clear what he had said, you called him a liar who had backed off his prior lies.

Oh wait, you DID address that:

"btw: I am not interested in wasting any more bandwith on your 'friend.' So if his case is all you wish to discuss with me, thanks, but no thanks."

Of course you're no longer interested in discussing an instance where you were likely guilty of rash judgement and a lack of charity. I understand, Sock.

;-)

sitetest

75 posted on 07/28/2002 3:42:09 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: sitetest
I get it!

That little ";-)" at the end of your post means you're playing. Ok, my turn.;-)

We are taught that "charity" is primarily the love of God and, secondarily, the love of neighbor for the sake of God. Ought not the love of neighbor be subordinated to the love which is due to the Lord? To "offend" our neighbor for the love of God is, in fact, a true act of charity. Charity is practiced in relation to our neighbor when, in his OWN INTEREST, he is crossed and chastised. Charity is practiced in relation to God when, for His glory and in His service, it becomes necessary to silence human considerations to attain the highest of all ends.

You wrote:
Of course you're no longer interested in discussing an instance where you were likely guilty of rash judgement and a lack of charity. I understand, Sock.

I am guilty of many faults, but calling a liberal dissenting half-wit a “half-wit” is not one of them. In fact, it IS an act of charity. To refer to a liberal dissenting half-wit as anything less than a liberal dissenting half wit, would be bearing false witness, sitetest. The fact that I don’t hold a half wit’s hand, snuggle up, and whisper sweet nothings in his ear is not my bag, sitetest.

Liberal charity, on the other hand, is tender in appearance, but at bottom it is an essential contempt for the true good of men, or the supreme interests of truth and [ultimately] of God. It is human self-love, usurping the throne of the Lord and demanding that worship which belongs to God alone.

You along with your “friend” (perhaps there’s a bond I’m not aware of) expressed the belief that there were few souls in hell. You then quoted the Fatima prayer as a piece of evidence to substantiate your claim. I responded by posting the quotes from Lucia after her vision of hell and the actual quote from Our Lady indicating that MANY souls are damned. I understand that this conflicts with the post V II hand holding, we are the world, ecumenical, I’m ok – you’re ok, philosophy of a few Kumbaya Katholics. I understand that also, sitetest. No problem.

Perhaps the article in which you can rebut the words of Lucia and Our Lady of Fatima is located near the other articles that you refered to which show that (I’m paraphrasing) 80% of Catholics believe in the Real Presence. I’m sure if I find the one article the other will be there also. Once I find the article showing that 80% of Catholics believe in the Real Presence, as you claim, I will email Cardinal Hickey since he, like many of us who read Gallop and the CBS/NYT polls are misinformed.

Have you ever done stand-up comedy? You have talent, sitetest.;-)

76 posted on 07/28/2002 4:11:21 PM PDT by Sock
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