[maryz]

So tell me, where do suicides go?

So, what am I -- the Delphic oracle? I won't say I don't know anything, but I don't know much, except that the love and mercy of God are extraordinary. I do know that God not only makes the trees, but He personally draws forth each leaf. (If I get to know you better, maybe I'll explain how I know that -- in any case, you don't have to believe it; I am utterly convinced of it.)

Suicide is a terrible thing. As Chesterton said, "The man who kills a man kills one man; the man who kills himself kills all men." He thinks the instinct of the Church to bury the suicide at a crossroads and not in consecrated ground is a true one, but he recognizes the sad and tragic apparent motivation behind most suicides. I would doubt that any suicide acts with "full knowledge and full consent of the will."

[narses]

I agree with you regrads the leaves, as for suicides, I believe the teaching of the Church. I believe that when the saints visions of Hell all agree that there ARE pour souls there in torment that they are correct. I frankly am just ever so slightly astounded that any Catholic could imagine that none of the evil people who stud our histories with evil could be in Hell. When I was told a saint said the streets of Hell are paved with the skulls of Bishops, I understood. From those who are given much, much is expected. Read about Aristide and how he had VOODOO icons inscribed on his priestly vestments. I could go on forever listing the evils of this world and the names of those who proclaim, not a love of God, but a hatred. It would avail not. If you want to believe that none have ever gone to Hell, there is nothing I can say to change that opinion. I simply do not share it, nor does our Church.