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To: Sock
To borrow your phraseology, stuff it.

Does the Church teach that there are souls in hell? It certainly teaches that there are souls in heaven, but, to my knowledge, I've never seen a teaching about souls in hell.

I'm familiar with those Scriptures. There are differing interpretations of them, especially the last one, where Christ was likely referring analogically to a city gate in Jerusalem which had a very narrow opening to keep out invaders.

Calm down.

14 posted on 07/27/2002 7:57:15 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Does the Church teach that there are souls in hell? It certainly teaches that there are souls in heaven, but, to my knowledge, I've never seen a teaching about souls in hell.

So suddenly you are willing to listen to what the Church teaches? Great, now give some thought to the teaching on artificail contraception.

1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."[615] The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.

1056 Following the example of Christ, the Church warns the faithful of the "sad and lamentable reality of eternal death" (GCD 69), also called "hell."

1057 Hell's principal punishment consists of eternal separation from God in whom alone man can have the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.
Source from the Catechism

To borrow your phraseology, stuff it.

You had better know what your talking about before you tell someone to "stuff it", you half wit.

15 posted on 07/27/2002 8:19:39 AM PDT by Sock
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To: sinkspur
... I've never seen a teaching about souls in hell.

Haven't there been more than one message from Our Lady and Saints about the suffering souls in Hell?

17 posted on 07/27/2002 8:24:07 AM PDT by narses
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To: sinkspur
I have a problem with Polyanna Catholicism, all this hugging, all this schmoozing the Pope does with World Youth, all this apologizing that makes us laughing stocks. A saccharine Jesus and an uninhabited Hell is typical liberal schmaltz, not to mention revisionist wishful thinking.
26 posted on 07/27/2002 1:48:33 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: sinkspur
"Does the Church teach that there are souls in hell? It certainly teaches that there are souls in heaven, but, to my knowledge, I've never seen a teaching about souls in hell."

John 17:12 While I was with them, I kept them in thy name. Those whom thou gavest me have I kept; and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition, that the scripture may be fulfilled.

Jesus here confirms that Judas is in hell. In semitic thought to call someone the "son of ...." describes either their origin OR their destiny. As Judas cannot have come from hell, Our Lord can only mean that he was going and now is there.

As far as I know there is no other teaching about any certain individual being in hell, but there is plenty of authoritative teaching confirming that there are many souls in hell as well as the devil and his angels.
33 posted on 07/27/2002 3:28:48 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: sinkspur
Does the Church teach that there are souls in hell? It certainly teaches that there are souls in heaven, but, to my knowledge, I've never seen a teaching about souls in hell.

I don't what the Catholic Church teaches precisely, but here is a teaching by Christ from scripture:

Luke 16:19-31 The Rich Man and Lazarus

Now there was a rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, joyously living in splendor every day. And a poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores, and longing to be fed with the crumbs which were falling from the rich man's table; besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores. Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham's bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried. In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.' But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony. 'And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.' And he said, 'Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father's house-- for I have five brothers--in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.' But Abraham said, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.' But he said, 'No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!' But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'

I would also point out, this passage is not qualified as a parable or story and in fact may be literal.
39 posted on 07/27/2002 4:04:04 PM PDT by Starwind
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