[don-o]

What is needed is for the Church to get on our knees and pray for a heaven sent revival.

I heard this same cant from years of experience. We got down our knees and prayed. Then we went home and turned on television.

Sadly, it seems that God requires more. Read the book of Ezra. From memory, I believe that God's people had lost their way. When the prophet called to mind that fact, the king commaned a fast a a reading of the law to the people.

The people repented.

I doubt that happening in the USA.

[sonrise57]

I'm aware of the cliche of what I posted, however the alternative is to surrender and leave the field.

I believe that it is possible for massive cultural shift to take place and I am going to ask God to, in his mercy, allow that cultural shift to take place toward God. Since I believe that Jesus is going to build his church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it, the church is going to thrive and survive somewhere on earth. The question is, what will become of it here in the US.