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Actually Shanley, like James Porter, also from Boston, was ordained pre Vatican II and began abusing pre V2. If you are going to blame es on the Rite of the Mass they lived under, these two are all yours, they were born of the Tridentine.

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[patent]

"es" is supposed to be "ped o philes" but I have a internet filter that doesn't like that word. Sorry.

[ultima ratio]

Shanley was given free reign AFTER ordination--after Vatican II. Does anybody think the pre-conciliar Church would have tolerated a priest who openly preached on behalf of NAMBLA? Look, you guys won't even admit there's a problem. There are gay dances of young men cheek to cheek on parish property, seminarians spend weekends cruising gay bars, the 1992 Gay Symposium in Chicago which was attended by priests and bishops and which openly urged gay priests to be sexually active was subsidized by no less than 92 diocesan offices and religious orders. (Atila Sinke Guimaraes.) This is not the Catholicism our parents grew up in. This is profound corruption under the aegis of a new sexual morality that mirrors the world's--all of it promulgated after Vatican II. It is profoundly uncatholic. Not that I think there was no corruption before the Council. But not on this scale, not with so little effort by the episcopacy to stem the floodtide.