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To: ultima ratio
Stephan Hand is at war with the traditionalists in the Church. He represents a middle group between traditionalism and liberalism. (He would call himself a conservative, though it would be a misnomer

Really? So, when one sees his website reads TRCnews the "T" stands for "conservative" not "traditional?"

187 posted on 07/26/2002 5:16:49 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
When he started his website the divisions among Catholics were less clear and so was terminology. Anyone who attends the Novus Ordo Mass--as Hand does--is not a traditionalist.
194 posted on 07/26/2002 5:59:47 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: Catholicguy
One big difficulty I find with Hand is his position on clerical celibacy,an issue wherein he chooses not to follow the Pope's clear techings. Yes,I know it is a "discipline" and could change but in the present fray,I see it as laughable that he,on one preaches total allegiance to the Pope on all matters except one with which he disagrees,on that issue its okay to offer other opinions.

I have only attended a Tridentine Mass five or six times since the 60's because our bishop will not provide the Indult for us.Those times I also went to my own parish to attend the N.O.,because the way I read what the Pope has said unless the bishop authorizes it,we must attend the N.O..Nonetheless,I am grateful for the fact that the Tridentine Mass is alive and well,I just wish it were offerred more generously as the Pope has requested.More accurately,I wish that it was offered in every diocese not as an indult but as a right.

395 posted on 07/26/2002 12:43:12 PM PDT by saradippity
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